Exactly, Diffuse Field. It means this headphone is tuned to the DF target!

This reminds me of the headphones Skullcandy made with vibration so it seemed like there was more bass than there actually was.

The right answer has been provided multiple times but I'll repeat...

1. Thr Beyer 770 factory tuning is not optimized for FPS games. IMO the Beyer 900 Pro X offers the best game tune (staging, tone, footsteps) but gets very fatiguing due to heavy bass after 1-2hrs of COD or BF.

2. 'Brain Train' is real. You need to listen to a new pair of headphones for a week or so to really appreciate the musical presentation. Also make sure you're fitting them on your head correctly. Fit is super important!

My recommendation for the best staging, sound, footsteps and comfort is the Sennheiser PC38x. Over the years I've literally tried them all and these offer the best performance across FPS and Action game titles.

Games especially are made for a generalized audience and not catered towards hifi headphones and sound systems. They may not have even tested their sounds with these sort of devices.

Yeah, most audiophile gear isn’t necessarily good for gaming.

We are going to break the 10K price mark for mass production headphones (Empyrean and friends)

Damn, is the Clear really that much better with the Burson? I use mine with the 789, the Burson stuff looks really nice but they are expensive

merry christmas and enjoy them. i paired mine with an Fiio K5 pro ESS and i am verry satisfied.

Just downloaded it! Thank you

You mean in the box? Or the headband? Because the latter uses fabric for me

Thanks!

I own them and love them (Mostly a EDM listener)

Crinacle has a list where he rates the 820s a low E score but i’ve tried the utopias (a high S- by his rating) and thought they sucked and didn’t even buy them like i expected to even with $2k off. So $3500aud down from $5500aud

Just a subjective matter clearly

I don't have any Beyers, so I can't really make any claim with regards to them, but what I can say is it's possible that you're not used to them, and are probably just super used to how your Logitech headset sounds.

Gaming headsets are generally designed to be a bit boomier, so that sounds like gunfire, explosions, engine noises and the like are put greater emphasis on. They're great for playing games for that reason, because they emphasise what's going on on-screen at any one time. Whilst I primarily use Meze 99 Neos on my PC, even for playing games, it's clear this isn't really what they're designed to be dealing with.

I'm in a similar situation right now, though not quite as bad. Having been a user of KZ ZS10 IEMs for about eight months, the right ear decided to stop sealing properly, so I bought some new IEMs - in particular, the Mee Audio Pinnacle PX IEMs from Drop.

They sound hollow to me; even after being used for a few weeks, I'm still trying to overcome the sense that it sounds a bit empty. There is a lot of detail, and I am picking up sounds in music I didn't notice before in a way that's cool, but it doesn't quite have the oomph (for want of a better way to put it) that I got from the KZs. Really good IEMs, and I'll still gladly use them, but I'm not used to them. Given enough time, I'm sure I'll adjust.

i can game verry well with my hifiman sundaras. actually one of the best gaming headphones i ever used. footsteps are super clear and explotions actually scare me sometimes :D they sound super realstic

You are not in the wrong at all. You can never be wrong in terms of audio preferences. You could prefer american airline ear buds to a 50k$ seinheiser pair of headphones and still be right about it.

You friend is a snob thinking he knows best but apparently you have better ears than him. It totally makes sense that those Beyers suck at gaming.

Haven't heard any of those. But my 1990s with soundID flat target is the only headphones I have not sold. They are a bit bright without EQ, but bringing the high frequencies down and boosting the bass makes them shine with warmth.

When it comes to sounding "like a corrupted sound file", the DT 770 does have a treble peak, which accentuates high-frequency detail. This is exactly where compression artifacts lie. A lot of game audio is fairly heavily compressed, so artifacts are there. They typically aren't all that noticeable in the mix of different noises and sounds, but will stand out more when you're listening to headphones with a lot of treble for the first time.

Amazing shot

Seems like a frequency imbalance. If he has left them unmodified, I'd suggest he finds a frequency graph from a reputable site, and then attempts to EQ them.

Yup. It's all about brain burn in. I had the same issue when I first got into headphones but once I started listening to more higher quality headphones stuff like the Logitech headphones sounds like it belongs in the trash.

DT770 sound clearly better than most cheap consumer headphones, but their strengths are price, usability for many things, durability and a far perhaps tenth sound quality with the stock tuning. With EQ like Oratory1990's preset the jump up quite a few steps and pretty decent. The cup design causes issues that EQ can't remedy, but they're fine. HD280 Pro and K 371 are far better in many ways.

DT 770 are fairly dry, neutral and with not much low end boost, especially for closed back headphones. Logitechs are probably tuned to be less neutral and to add some spice, most gaming headphones are that way, just how things are.

If you stuck to the DT 770 after a while, you would find the Logitech ones weird and bass boosted.

Also, I'm not sure how these two compare in terms of imaging, distortion etc.

Another thing is the quality of the source files, and the entire audio chain. Maybe the source files are compressed, or the PC wasn't set up with the highest sound resolution and bit depth. The thing with good headphones and speakers set up in a properly treated room is that they can reveal a lot of stuff you would rather not know, they can ruin your favorite songs etc. especially if you learn how to listen critically, turning that mode off in your brain is tough sometimes.

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-770-pro

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/logitech/g-pro-x-gaming-headset

If you go into sound profile graphs and compare the 770 to the Pro X you will find a nice bump around mid and high bass. If you look at where male voice lives in the frequency chart you will see that the fundamentals are all the way from 100Hz up to almost 1kHz, a cool comparison to do would be to try using an EQ to match the response of DT770 to the one you are used to and see how they sound then. Or even better, get Sound ID app (probably paid) or Sonar Works for headphones (also not free but genuinely solid) or Equalizer APO (free, but you need to set it up) or something and use the EQ correction curve to make both of these headphones EQ responses as flat as possible and then compare them on the same setup, same files and same day. A-B testing, with matched settings, is one of the best ways to compare any product.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hwnCNuE0Gqk/TUs7ODXE9lI/AAAAAAAAAKA/hvdGzxRHlIc/s1600/Interactive-Frequency-Chart.png

I’ve got more than enough headphones but at that price even I’m tempted haha

l bought dolby atmos subscription on win11 l believe for like $20.00 and set it game mode ....makes a dif for just $20.00 that is if you game with your pc...

Still my daily drivers - was on 7+ years now I can't convince myself to let them go and bought the 6XX massdrop version on a super sale to keep the originals as a backup.

One of my fave sets ever.