Durability and repairability are the most important quality of studio headphones found in studios.

I'm just shocked you thought these would compare to any of your other earphone or headphones lol. They're mass produced consumer earbuds and you're just paying for the electronics, the driver(s) inside these are probably worth $5

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Products like that sound ok until you compare them with something decent

I haven't listened to a DT770, but your ears don't lie.

However, the problem is two fold.

One, you comprehend only upon the sum of your experiences. This goes for both of you by the way. You won't appreciate the capability of something or understand its shortcomings without experiencing the greater breadth.

Two, human hearing is NOT static. Our minds constantly adjust to balance out common sounds. Your mind will "tune" to what you experience a lot, and that sound will become normalized. It can take work and training to actually detuned and be more unbiased. You will also need equipment too. For example when I get new equipment, test, and review I use an array of other headphones as static, known points along a measuring stick. I also use test tones and pink noise tracks to aid with EQing and seeing how the product produces sound and forms the notes. And the process to fully learn and understand a single product well takes weeks of daily listening, testing, and comparing. All of this is done to tune out the bias and accumulate details.

Companies like Logitech make good headphones. They make products that hit center mass in the market space. They are all around good but at the same time not amazing either. They just don't do anything terribly wrong. And for this market space, that performs and sells well. It's also why companies like Steel Series is very popular because they do the same thing.

I use my DT 1990s for gaming all the time (it's actually their primary use) and absolutely love them. I haven't heard the others either.

The box, I felt ripped off.

They're higher end stuff is pretty good, but I don't like their cheaper stuff. Just me though. You do you.

I've seen numerous commentators say something like " I would never buy anything from a company with such a foul, or scatological, or vulgar, (pick your adjective) name," and actually saw one comment saying "...if somebody asked for the company name I'd be too embarrassed to say it," a comment I found too embarrassing for words, but there you go.

His point on EQs stands. I got some very bass-heavy Sony headphones, and with a digital EQ and a frequency graph as a guide, I managed to make their response flat-ish.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Not me, once I bought my sundaras I haven't touched my 6xx's in over a year

bscly op

Jokes aside, enjoy it 👍

You're not wrong about one thing: you know what you like. And that's what you should be using, things that you prefer the sound of.

Great "audiophile" (I actually hate using this term) headphones aren't necessarily the best fit for gaming. Gaming audio seems to be work best when the EQ curve is distorted to ridiculous levels, highlighting and exaggerating particular frequencies that give you in-game advantages, but that would sound awful to someone used to "non-gaming" headphones when listening to music.

The DT770 is known to be a little on the lean and dry side. That takes some getting used to. Your brain has to be adjust (and this takes time) from the overly sweetened / salty presentation of a gaming headset. Once you get over that adjustment period, you might grow to appreciate the subtlety, which will help you notice all sorts of little details that might have been hidden by the way a gaming headset is tuned.

That is a fact. It's not an open-back but I was playing Elden Ring and realized that my Atticus is way more immersive than my Arya.

Sounds like he’s playing with surround sound on. 🥹

I've always wanted to try this, really appreciate the impressions post

My new computer came with Dolby Atmos for Headphones. After months of using stock Windows Sonic for HRTF compensation, I can say with absolute certainty that Atmos on PC is absolutely, positively ass.

Barring the fact that enabling it on half my games (IL-2, Rise of Flight, Space Engine, and more) causes certain audio to only shoot out my left headphone ear; when Atmos finally does decide to work, sound coming from straight ahead (notably car engine noises in GTA Online) is very noticeably distorted and compressed as opposed to with Atmos turned off, or with Sonic turned on.

I've tried all the settings, I've tried all the modes, I've even tried creating custom modes. Nothing fixes it.

AKG K612 Pro and FiiO BTR5 user here.

I have HD600s and I use grados 60x when gaming, you’re not alone

Yeah, the crushers are Insane. To put haptic motors in headphones is really really f*cking crazy, but... It worked for them!

I love them. I have a pair and can drive them well. I describe them in three words: clear, precise, light. Everything sounds so clean and surprisingly non-sibilant. Yes, bass is a bit lacking in strength but sounds very tight and clean as well. I just f***ing love the Mids on these especially!

As far as I am aware, yes. Its there to replicate studio monitor sound on headphones.

Dt 770 have a very unusual metallic sound to them, I’m not a fan personally, but my favourite headphones of all time are the beyerdynamic t5p which sound so much more natural. I did have some g pro x and I thought they sounded like shit, but I guess they sound more natural than the dt 770. You’d probably prefer sennheisers house tuning

If the game’s audio is designed for Atmos or some sort of 3D sound it’ll sound oddly spaced out on audiophile hardware.

Check the game audio settings. Make sure it’s set to stereo.

Does DF mean speaker-ish sounding?? Bcuz after seeing diffuse field graph it looks like DF target trying to be speaker-ish replicate speaker sound in headphone