I have pretty much a stock Dell XPS with a gpu swap. I got it barely used off Facebook marketplace and I cant seem to find how old it really is but it’s quite a good computer and most likely quite new as well. Can’t say how big of an effect this stuff can have on the sound since I’m pretty new to the hobby and haven’t tested a whole lot of things, but it’s probably worth testing how well it sounds with your pc before investing in a quality amp. But then again if you know you’ll need one in the future, might as well get it now, depends on your situation I guess!

My recommendation is to tame expectations. Not saying it won’t be great, but it’s important to go into it as open-minded as possible, while knowing what matters to you, what your preferences are, etc.. there’s just so many subjective factors at play.

Better to be pleasantly surprised than overly wooed or even disappointed, and give your ears/brain a little time to adjust.

Gaming marketing iems doesnt make them better at gaming. Gaming mouse like zaunkoenig m2k is actuallt better than normal mouse for gaming due to actual gaming oriented features like 8000hz polling rate and carbon fibre no hole body for lowest 20gram weight. While these "gaming" iem dont have any actual features to aid gaming.

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Oh no problem. I am absolutely no expert. If you max out the volume of the amp and the headphones are only moderately loud, you may want to get a more powerful amp.

As for the qualities, when I underpower a set of headphones, It is hard for me to really hear definition. Those 560s will surprise you with how fun they sound. Great Soundstage and way more low end than I expected from open backs.

Thank you for this list, that's the problem I actually don't know what C-Pin IEMs are out there 😅

steelseries/hyperx/logitech have their gaming iems

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Heeey Emotiva Buddy! ;) lol

I am honestly pretty excited for it as well. I have seen nothing but positive comments on it when it comes to the HE6se V2, so hopefully this all pans out.

I suppose once I get it and have put some mileage on it, I will come back and leave a comment here with what I think.

Final Audio VR3000 iems are advertised for gaming and being similar/same as A3000's only with cut corners on cable quality and packaging to lower the price. Haven't tried them for FPS gaming yet but they seem very v-shaped but leaning on treble being forward and sharp with a wide soundstage presentation. They might be really accurate for FPS gaming.

Well... The thing is that my desktop is a rather old one, with a cheap ass motherboard -> might have a weak on board sound department, does this also affect the sound quality greatly? What kind of PC do you have?

How do you like the Noires for rap music? Are the rapper's vocals present or recessed? I needed a closed back so I pulled the trigger on these and should be arriving tomorow. Wanted these for the comfort mostly.

There is no gaming iem. For lowest lag you have to directly plug into motherboard jack. Motherboard jack cant handle heavy headphones like 250ohm dt770 pro. So best use something like sennheiser ie300 iems for the best sound for the power available from the jack. Best gaming audio is just using good iems directly into motherboard for lowest lag.

I’ve never tried my pair with an amp/dac but my laptop/pc seem to drive them fine. I have heard that you’ll get the best out of them with an amp though, but shouldn’t be a big worry.

What's the right place to order Stax in the US, https://staxaudio.com/ ?

I am sorry for being such a newbie in this field, however - will the qualities of the headphones be obvious, even with a insufficent AMP? Like, will I know for a fact, that "yes, i really dig the sound, however I know for a fact that I need a better AMP"? Sorry if my thoughts are confusing, trying my best to put it into words :D

My friend bought recently an m50x he has no dac amp, so I've gave him to try Fiio E10K to see if he needs it or not, after trying it he wanted to buy it off me as I've told him that I may upgrade in the near future. So I think it does improve the sound. As for btr5 I think it will suffice for m50x also try to get qudelix 5k it.s much better if you put the aesthetics aside.

SR-X9000 is the first headphone I’ve really liked more than my 1266TCs in enough areas to make me want to switch. The staging is just so natural! I’ll probably just get the 9k and use both, but this hobby is getting expensive. TCs are still the most visceral experience in headphones and have their place like you said.

You need to hear the 9k on Headamp’s new Grand Cayman or the Kerry T2 if you haven’t. T2 makes it more tactile and slammy, less soft but still very natural. Grand Cayman makes the staging even more natural and speaker like! They’re both unbelievable pairings natural (these comparisons are vs BHSE). I haven’t had the chance to A/B the T2 and Grand Cayman directly like I have for each vs BHSE, but that’s the next step along with hearing the MSB Select and Viva Egoista STX.

The Shangri-La (Sr) is worth hearing on the T2 as well. Much better than the HFM amp. But I’d have trouble justifying that sort of spending on anything from HFM.

The new Yamaha headphone also looks interesting.

Actually yeah, the Emotiva A2m has been on my radar for a while, and writing these comments lead me to discover the current sale, so I pulled the trigger on my own last night, too, lol. I'm excited to give it a listen. It very well could be the most wattage for your dollar currently, and while there aren't tons of reviews out there yet, the ones there are are positive.

That most likely is good, as the 560s is 120 ohm. Fiio makes some decent affordable headphone amps. I have the e10 and it has plenty of power for these. Try your amp first, it may work well with these.

that’s stax for you

Yeah I also figured that reddit and headfi are basically most dangerous places which influence people into buying stuff they don't need. Facebook and google are little children in comparison to the discussions about high end gear.

As I have stated in a different comment, I do own a really cheap DAC/AMP from SoundBlaster (20$). Dunno how that'll handle the cans, feel free to suggest anything.

Be warned. They actually need a little bit of power past just a phone. Otherwise it will most likely be disappointing...

Thats great to hear. Well, what do I drive it with? Good question, you've quite caught me off guard. I do own a really cheap DAC/AMP from SoundBlaster, the price is around 20$. Not sure how that will handle the cans, I hope atleast decently. If you have any good suggestions (preferrably on the cheaper side) please share! :)