Fair enough, thank you for sharing

u/jurassicpork56

Interesting fellow oratory, no disrespecting the legend, but I also have a graduate degree in acoustics, and headphones are my full time work. I’ve measured many many headphones and in fact found, as I noted, that many headphones aren’t minimum phase “for their entire bandwidth” and I highly doubt he’ll disagree with that statement. It’s common knowledge in the headphone industry. There’s even some good plots of it floating around this sub , if I recall specifically calling out the LCD2, focal (forget which one), m50s, and hd600s. If you don’t believe me dig around and you’ll find them. - not that that in any way makes them bad headphones, again, I just get frustrated when people just echo other comments they read when they don’t know what it means/it isn’t completely true

1. Buy a quality IEM with bright tuning for extra in-game details.
2. Buy Kinera Garmr cable to have a boom mic.
3. Enjoy.

Lmao yeah surprising I know, I'm still waiting for quite a few of my cans to sell, and probably will look to selling my 009s as well. X9000 I only got because there was a good deal for it and I simply couldn't watch it slip :p

But happy new year to you as well

>from budget restraints lol

Wait, you have budget restraints?

jk, I'm super happy for you. Enjoy your 9k's and happy new year!

This is contrary to everything I see online and if I’m not mistaken all content on sites like YouTube is in 44.1, right? Not sure, you probably can’t go wrong with whatever you choose especially if you’re just going to use exclusive mode on a video player or media player anyhow. I just stick to 44.1, since that’s what I see recommended everywhere.

I thought these were gonna be $300 going by your review. LoL. It's $700

> Oppo PM-3

do you think they are better than hifiman sundaras?

>My experience with the 109 differs from most. And it sounds different to me than it does to someone else.

Let me first start of saying that what you're hearing is not wrong, I 100% believe you. This is important because the reason you hear what you hear could have in my opinion based on what I know about this topics and what I read could have 2 reasons. The first is your hrtf doesn't match with the mean as pointed out in the paper we're talking about; you literally hear different.

The other reason is probably that you are used to other headphones which have a different response and because the meze probably has more highs than the other headphone you perceive it as too much highs. This means that the error is not that you hear different meaning (e.g. you have a different hrtf which was the point I was making) but that you are used to other headphones or just have a different preference. Comparing the Meze to the headphones in your flair seem to confirm that it indeed has more treble meaning the target represents your hrtf probably pretty well.

Really my point is that we are (most of the time, 80%+ of the people) not hearing differently but that we have different preferences (or known/used to targets), this is also supported in the harman target research paper which pointed out that some people like more bass and some less highs. This means in short (in my scientific based opinion at least) that if we both listen to a pair of dt990's after having listened to hd650's for a good while (so it is our definition of neutral and our only audible memory of a reference) that we both would think the dt990 is a bright sounding headphone and not still have different ratings because our ears are literally different.

anything negative about them? what were you running before and what sticks out the most comparatively?

Idk if it would be better then your motherboard output at that point, so couldn't tell you sorry

i really don't like rgb lights

Well according to u/oratory1990, whose an acoustic engineer with a phd, it headphones are minimum phase

For IEMs, changing the insertion depth changes not only the resonance peak but also the treble frequencies by 3-5db. That's why the Z1R treble is so divisive. I believe crinacle or some other reviewers have the measurements for that.

For over ears, anecdotally my left and right ear HRTF is different enough I can hear the difference between them when doing frequency sweeps.

Most headphones behave as a minimum phase system… for some of their response range, but many popular headphones (audeze, hifiman, sennheiser etc) have large portions of nonlinear and non- minimum phase response within their operating range. It just bugs me that everyone screams minimum phase and few of them actually understand what it means and /or if it’s even true.

Have you tried HOOK-X or Zetian Wu?

It doesn't have the same magic it like it loses some fidelity and doesn't sound as good

No that's not it

I know this is an anecdotal example so feel free to dismiss my following subjective impression.

The Meze 109 Pro is lauded and praised by many reviewers and people in the headphone community. I found its treble to be way too hot and I couldn't comfortably listen to more than 1.5 songs with it. This anecdote ties into the sentence you conclude with

> most headphone will sound the same, differences probably will be in perceived treble levels which other research also proves (treble sensitivity etc.).

My experience with the 109 differs from most. And it sounds different to me than it does to someone else.

If you think that any given headphone will sound the same to everyone who tries it, then we disagree and I'm not budging on this point. I don't mean to come across as stubborn or anything but there is not a single headphone that everyone agrees to sound the same. Sure there are general trends e.g. DT990 is bright, but how much a headphone is enjoyed will vary from person to person.

Looks big, if you haven’t seen my other comment actually i’m struggling with fitting on my Variations, and if you don’t notice it my other iems and the one i wanted to try all of them smaller than Variations soo… thanks for your info.

Just thinking aloud: how does heat affect the drivers and coils? Doesn't heat affect conductivity of wires and malleability of drivers?

it can be a lot of things, it can be ear fatigue yes, but it can also just be your getting more familiar and noticing flaws as you listen.

I’ve had my pair for a couple weeks. Love them.

It would be nice if you could provide some examples and elaborate on what you mean.