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beeglowbot OP t1_j221vxd wrote

Still only a few songs in before I got interrupted but Arya has much tighter bass that gives me the illusion of impact. The 109s definitely has loads more bass but doesn't sound as tight. Not that it's messy but I think because it blends in with the higher lows, it doesn't feel as sharp when it hits. I need to listen more before I can give you a solid answer.

What few songs I tested I mainly focused on space, separation and top end.

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TheFrator t1_j221dsu wrote

> but that you are used to other headphones or just have a different preference.

100% true. I prefer dark headphones and EQ in treble to taste / mood / genre.

> Really my point is that we are (most of the time, 80%+ of the people) not hearing differently but that we have different preferences (or known/used to targets),

I can get behind an 80/20 weighting of preference to literally hearing different. I'm still holding onto a shard of hearing differently because I don't know how some people can listen to Beyerdynamics (990 and 1990) even after testing headphones with different signatures. They both pierce my soul haha.

It'd be cool to be a participant in that study and get our own HRTF profile.

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BionicSammich t1_j2200t6 wrote

Hows the bass extension and impact on the 109s compared to the Aryas? I had some Arya Stealths for a while until I went for the Meze Elites. The Elites lack in one single department for me and its sub-bass slam/impact. The Aryas felt like it was punching you in the chest for some bassy songs, where as the Elites don't have as much if that thump. Unfortunately I'm going to have to part with the Elites for now because my PC decided to suddenly die, so its time to build a new one. I'm debating between replacing the Elites with 109 Pros or a used set of Arya V2s thats local to me (whatever cash is left over will build my new PC).

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Bickster- t1_j21yncx wrote

I'm also baffled by the "fr only matters" stereotype. Who says this? Anyone can easily disprove this by buying a set of awful headphones and eq'ing them to a graph, only for them to sound arguably more shit. FR doesn't tell the whole story, but it's way better than nothing, and reviewers have gotten a while lot better about nitpicking technical performance, so you can go to them if you want info about a headphone's audio quality

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SupOrSalad OP t1_j21y9ux wrote

Love them. I have the dusk so it has a bit more of a Harman-ish signature than the normal B2. For an IEM they do sound more full than other IEMs I've used, but I haven't used any IEMs that are much more expensive than the B2. They sound similar to the K371 with a little more treble extention in terms of tonality, but sound more "detailed" in my opinion

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Bickster- t1_j21y39o wrote

The reason frequency response graphs are focused on so much is because it's the only real way to know how a headphone/IEM sounds before buying it. There are a lot of aspects that a headphone can have other than tonality, but tonality is arguably the biggest factor of determining how a headphone will sound. Before FR measurements were standard, you had basically no reference as to how the headphone would sound before you bought it, so you could only really go off reputation and recommendations.

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smg5284 t1_j21wsrq wrote

Reply to comment by H_P_S in Just ordered the HD 560S by HypeX248

I did find the first big difference with mine when i listened to a live recording (Alice in Chain's Unplugged). After that i gave them some time with more music before i tried my old headphones. Then i heard the difference. I love these.

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wwt3 t1_j21wo8n wrote

To simplify it a bit, I’ll explain an example vs the actual concept as it gets kinda messy. A consequence of being minimum phase is that: Amplitude and decay time are proportionate. / louder sounds take longer to decay than quieter sounds, and the relationship between these two is constant. Areas where a system is NOT minimum phase would have that relationship breakdown such that either the proportion changes (got quieter /louder and the decay doesn’t scale linearly or equally to other frequency bands). This has consequences - though not necessarily negative. It just causes some issues in the common argument that “frequency response is everything, it tells all the info you need because headphones are minimum phase”. And while admitting it tells you a lot, I can’t help but be a little bit of a stickler just because it annoys me when people echo what they read elsewhere in other comments without knowing what it means. But now you know! https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/wiki/resourcesindex/where-to-find-headphone-measurements/minimumphase-csd-ir/ here is another fairly short read I found from a while ago that discusses it a bit more without getting tooooo deep In the weeds

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mlper04 t1_j21v5e3 wrote

You might not be wowed immediately. Just give it a listen for about 2 days then compare it to your old headphones then you can be wowed. I tried to compare my hd 560s to my cousin's corsair gaming headset which was my dream headphones back in college and when I tried them on I was " why are the vocals so recessed and the bass too boomy and the treble too piercing.

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