Gaming in general, sure, from an immersion perspective a wide soundstage is great. But specifically in the context of competive FPS, its really not that important, in fact I personally find an overly diffused soundstage can be detrimental at times.

It's worth remembering that pro players are more often than not running IEMs or even standard gaming headsets. Also, the guys you mentioned aren't competitive gamers, in fact, crinacle himself has made this exact point, not so much specifically regarding soundstage, but just generally that it really doesn't matter that much beyond having a neutral/bright leaning sound signature.

It's all preference at the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with the 800S, but if you're spending over a grand on a pair of headphones in the hope that they'll make you win games more often, you're gonna be disappointed... And poorer.

Lol then you're in the wrong audiophile circles... An actually audiophile knows the Airpod Max and especially the new Airpod Pros (2nd Generation) are tonally more accurate than some headphones/TWS that are in the same price bracket. And have class leading transparency mode....

And I don't even call myself an Apple person

Say Thank you. Then after 1 week when he forgot about the gift, throw it away. Or what I would do is put it on display in my room (preferably in a nice boogie glass case).

It's fantastic, just after a long time of daily driving it it gets a bit weird to detect on windows. Might be me. BT works generally great. Sometimes Windows has issues with it.

It's robust af.

Hope you can appreciate them, they are really well built and the most comfortable headphones I've tried yet

Thanks, Dank Pods Jr.

I’m sorry for your loss, man.

On the other hand he never needs to upgrade again

Eu já virei profissional em ver listagens da Olx agr kkk 4 listagens por segundo. Eu lembro quando comprei um kz zsn de 20 dol no ali e ficou parado na alfândega e eu n recebi o e-mail de confirmação da compra por causa de um bug e por isso eu n podia pegar o fone. Só fui comprar fone lá dps de 1 ano, os dois 7hz zero passaram de boas. Tinha achado tbm um shp9500 por tipo 300 na Olx, mas acho q seria muito similar ao meu hifiman

thank you bro i see alot of people shitting on the airpod maxes and apple earphones in general so when I got into this space i thought i would have to replace them

Cara, tem um DT 770 32ohms por 700 na Olx, só não peguei pq queria um de 80ohms, depois dá uma olhada lá.

Outra dica: Se comprar no Aliexpress e não passar de 50 dólares, não tem imposto!

Honestly the Airpods Max is a really good Bluetooth headphone that pairs excellently with Apple Ecosystem stuff so if that's you, then the Airpods Max is perfect but if you're a non Apple Ecosystem person then the Apple Airpods Max is bottlenecked by its lack of other Bluetooth codecs. Mostly the high bitrate codecs...

So my recommends are the: Mark Levinson 5909 or the Focal Bathys

But note that the Airpod Max still beats them when it comes to the non sonic stuff like ANC and Ambient mode.

Tava vendo uns fones baratos usados mas honestamente, pelos 100 reais q queria gastar não tem tantas opções, e comprar iem usado é.... Questionável. Eu já tenho um he400se e por mais q eu queira comprar mais um fone, eu n to cagando dinheiro kkkk. Eu tinha achado um dt 700 por 1300, não tão barato considerando o preço do EUA, mas vontade de comprar.

Meu rei, uma dica de audiofilo da terra das bananas: comprar de segunda mão. Já comprei headphone de 2.5mil por 600 no mercado livre! (80% das minhas tralhas techs são de segunda mão)

sonically, im barely getting into headphones at all and these airpod maxes are really good (imo)but i want something better

You're a good friend

yeah, that's what the harman target does, it's what the average consumer likes, not what the average HD600S enjoyer likes

Better in what sense, ANC wise or Sonically?

I'm of the opinion the Schiit Magni/Modi stack is all you'll ever need. Full transparency, I am biased towards buying American. I've never heard a JDS Labs product, but I've only ever heard great things about them- so that's an option too. You can't go wrong with either.

Aside: Amps and DACs make such a minute difference and should be purchased mostly for the features you need (balanced, preamp, bluetooth etc.). I've gone up to $3k amps and DACs and the difference is inconsequential (to me). I'm also not a golden ear and I genuinely believe there's a variance in people's ability to hear. So I hesitate to proclaim all amps/DACs sound the same.

do you have any bluetooth headphone reccomendation that are better than the airpod maxes

Nothing/thanks or if you think they would be at all amenable to the information say, I'd rather just be given the money you spent if you're going to put this little thought and effort into buying me something specific.

Yup, that https://www.bluetoothgoodies.com/a2dp/ LDAC thing for PC is new IIRC, like maybe first available this second half of 2022.

Windows/Microsoft is legit like so slow with Bluetooth updates (and for some people it's sometimes really buggy with like blue screens and so on), they kinda said AAC will be available for Windows 10 but then they just made it exclusive to Windows 11, lol. So those of us with the Intel AX200/210/etc. Bluetooth/WiFi (PCIe) cards basically only have regular AptX (and AAC if on Windows 11). Hopefully they integrate LDAC and AptX Lossless soon but ya it'll probably not be in the near future, lmao.

Anyway there's actually LDAC USB transmitter dongles in development. It'll first be available on Taobao and then a few weeks or so later, AliExpress and other places.

In addition there's also the Bluetooth 5.3/AptX Lossless/etc. transmitter dongles (there's receivers or neckband adapters and so on now that allow you to get AptX Lossless with your wired IEMs and headphones, etc.), but sadly they are delayed. Wait for those transmitter dongles as they'll probably only cost $20-30 or so, maybe ~$50+ if they think people will pay that much.

So ya no need to pay ~$130 for the LDAC through USB from the FiiO BTA30 Pro (and probably its successor, if there's a BTA40 in the near future).

Yeah I've heard the MGs are different. I was able to get a set of OGs from the headphones website, so the cheaper price ended up selling me on them. Can't say I'd go for them at the original price.

Whenever I'm at my computer I will use my R70x unless my roommate is sleeping or being loud then I'll switch to my dt770. If I'm anywhere away from my pc I'll use my dunu Talos and I keep my moondrop arias with fiio utws5 in my car in case I need headphones when I go out.

I'm very happy about the purchase. I love the convenience of Bluetooth, but i wanted to use my few cans and headphones that I already liked. This is the best of both worlds for sure, and I'm pleased as heck. I was happy to hear such detailed base and soundstage the moment I started using it.

Ive mostly used a dongle for the past couple years, except with my speaker setup where I use UAD gear that's meant for mixing music, but I almost exclusively use that with my speakers. I like lounging on the couch or reading a book with headphones. Highly recommended to anyone who wants an affordable, powerful dac that also works Bluetooth!