Recent comments in /f/headphones

vicariou5 t1_j5rjjag wrote

I like going on last.fm and check what people comment on what I'm listening to - takes me through a rabbit hole of discovering more music sometimes. Fully committing to listening is a luxury I give myself seldom these days.

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AtomikPi t1_j5rhl45 wrote

Hi there. I don’t claim to be an expert on this branch of math and will believe you here. I would be curious to hear from someone like Oratory on the topic who has made similar arguments.

I’m only offering my subjective experience since I often find it hard to reconcile the subjective and objective side of things in audio. In the case of electronics and certainly cables, I’d rather largely ignore my subjective experience (also given the tons of failed ABT with speakers, which make it hard to believe electronics make any audible difference if not faulty). As you’ve stated, there have not been any time domain AB tests to my knowledge so the answer is ??? and people are trying to reason from the math rather than trials.

  • also soundstage (partially not driven by FR) and FR smoothness (important in Harman’s experiments) are two reasons to consider higher end headphones.
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No-Tune-9435 t1_j5rety5 wrote

Two quick fallacies to call out here A) the one everyone misses: time domain = frequency domain if you have infinite time and infinite frequencies. But if I showed you a frequency response of a song on only 1-40,000hz (or whatever, limits exaggerated to make the point), there would be infinite different songs that have that exact same FR. Simplest way to understand this is imagine if I played a song in reverse. It’d have the same FR from 1-40khz. Imagine I took the first second of a song and moved it to the end of that song. Also same FR. You could absolutely take the Fourier transform of a song and convert it to frequency domain. But you’d need to go into the microhertz to fully represent it in FR. People like to cite the frequency & time domain equivalencies to say that the time domain doesn’t matter at all just because you have an FR graph that goes from 20hz-20khz. This concept gets misquoted and abused in lots of arguments about interpreting FR plots. It doesn’t conclude what people want it to, and if people want to claim time domain plots are 100% irrelevant, the onus is still on them to demonstrate this with controlled studies. We can do some fancier math to put some constraints around my argument, but the original point needs to be made that time and frequency domains are only equivalent if both are infinite. Source: I am a mathematician who studied signal processing

B) Nobody said anything about subjective listening or hearing impulse response. I know you cite it as your own experience, but that feels a bit like a straw man argument. Original post made a conclusive assertion that impulse response is irrelevant

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Muttywango t1_j5rd7f6 wrote

I wanted to buy just one DAC/amp and never get into the amp upgrade/sidegrade scene, one unit for the rest of my life that is suitable for all headphones and earbuds. I wanted balanced output for my active speakers. I wanted parametric EQ. I didn't want anything large or showy. That's why I bought mine and I don't regret a single penny.

I came from a Fiio E10k and a Shanling M0. The improvement was, as you can imagine, astonishing. Mindblowing. That's when I started buying more headphones.

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CelibateCarl t1_j5rbdi3 wrote

Spoiler, I ended up picking up a set of 560s.
I've only tried the DT770 80 and 250s. Unfortunately I didn't have an amp to power the 250s, so it wasn't really at its full potential but I did try the 80s off a higher end PC right and it produced decent sound but I think it would've been better off a DAC. I ended up checking out used stuff locally one more time this morning and found a dude that had day old 560s with the receipts and everything and got a deal on em!

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OverL1ke OP t1_j5r9x21 wrote

Just amazed,after being in this sub for so long i honestly didn't except the amp to make any difference to me but it did!,the bass got so much more punchier,i am hearing details in songs that I've never heard before,soundstage feels a tad wider(this is one could be placebo but i really think the stage feels wider) sound is super clean with my new dac,i am really happy about this purchase

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