It doesn't do any good if you wanna upmix stereo to 7.1, it adds nothing just blends stereo channels to rear, side and middle but if you leave it at stereo the HRIR still gives more advantage than unaltered stereo.

The side right panel is located from right swype, from the right side. but you need to do on the subreddit and not on a post.

That is where you are absolutely wrong. With proper counter EQ and custom HRTF that was made for your ear, a simple stereo pair cannot beat it.

👆 this is the way.

Use something you know inside and out. That way you will notice new aspects or miss things that aren't there.

Can't agree more on the different genres thing too. My music taste has changed and evolved so much from coming to appreciate the sound of some songs rather than the music itself!

if I own the chu should I upgrade to this one?

I simply listen to whatever I listen the most at the time.

Use what you like and know, i use some Bob marley as he has so many different instruments going on, try different music genres too, some headphones will perform better than others depending on the music genres.

Planars are not inherently better at delivering more linear FR. The roll of in bass is a function of the resonance frequency and unsealed front volume. Modify either and you get linear bass on a dynamic driver. Alternatively EQ cam get you there as well.

Rough treble can happen with planars just as well as with dynamics. also measurements up there are unreliable and smoothed, so you don't really know whats going on.

I never said we could get a KSC to sound like speakers (well in theory you could but thats like arguing that you could also in theory create a black hole on earth) or whatnot, I just argued driver types don't matter, FR does. Your ear does not give two fucks whether a tone is generated by bird, human vocal chords or a speaker.

Ah yes, your golden ears can hear the "overdampned" driver and presumably you can aslo hear the grass grow.

I'm out fam. People who think their human ears are the end all be all of measuring instruments, like you, are not the type if crowd I want to associate with.

I mean,TO MY EYES the earth is flat sigh.

What model are they

[deleted]

M50X is pretty not great in terms of sound, yeah. Sharp treble, recessed mids, muddy bass. Not a good sound.

But even aside from that, those things when I had them used to blister my fucking ears, lol. They have so little cushioning.

Absolutely, definitely do not mix on those things. Mixing/mastering on headphones is generally a bad idea, but anything as incredibly biased tonally as the M50X is just asking for your mixes to sound like dogwater.

> Driver types don't matter. What matters is FR at the ear drum.

While this is technically true, planar drivers by design are able to deliver a more linear response than dynamic drivers are able to. Driver types AFFECT FR at the eardrum.

That is why dynamic drivers have roll-off in the treble and bass, and why good speakers have multiple drivers to cover different parts of the response. Trying to get all of them to cover 20 hz to 20 khz has its drawbacks, and we can see that in most dynamic driver FR graphs.

> I believe your "low res" experience is due to marketing telling you that planars are "better" and "more advanced" making confirmation bias kick in

Definitely not, I am not subjectivist by any stretch of the word, I argue with audio magic believers all the time, just check my comment history, lol. I'm a recording engineer. I know how this stuff works, it's my job to understand it.

In this case, FR at the eardrum is different in every headphone, they even change based on how the cups are positioned on your head, and FR measurements that we have of them are only accurate up to 10 khz, and even then, they're still smoothed over. There's tiny little differences in the response that account for a driver's properties, which is why with current tech, we can't EQ KSC75 to sound like Susvara.

Then, you start getting into the fact that some drivers, measurably, objectively, distort the more you mess with them, compared to others. Planars TEND to distort less, but there are plenty of dynamic drivers that are fine too.

In my experience, the HD6X0 series is not a driver type that handles EQ well, at least below about 400 hz. Treble/Mid EQ works just fine on it, which is why you can fix the recessed treble the 6XX has without issue.

But the bass... good god. It becomes a mud canon with only a little bit of a boost... Then again, it's a mud cannon at stock too, it's just bloated and has no definition whatsoever. HD600 handles this far far better, though the bass overall is reduced.

No, the reason why it sounds that way to me on some headphones is because a lot of driver adjustments are done with dampening, and the 6XX (my main dynamic drivers I personally own) are over-dampened, and it's very obvious when you listen to them.

Like you said, all that really matters is FR at the eardrum. My Ananda are heavily EQ'd, and even when using the same exact setup, measurements, target, etc etc, the Ananda do not have any of the negative qualities I'm used to hearing from the 6XX.

And I know it isn't in my head, because I have level-matched tests (done within 0.1 dB with an SPL meter) with them for people who have ZERO idea about how anything audio-related works, not told them what's what, and they report to me the exact same thing I hear. As in, my fucking mom noticed what I said without me asking or prompting anything related to the sound, and she barely understands how to open files on a computer.

Quick impression from a few rounds of deathmatch, definitely very good for Valorant. Soundstage isn't huge but imaging is precise, which is arguably better for gaming since it gives you the "wallhack effect". I can see why he likes it, it's pretty similar to the DT 900 PRO X which he also likes for gaming. The slight sparkle at the top area is perfect for footsteps.

I'll personally use this for gaming more than my Kato because while that is more enjoyable, the lower area is too crowded for competitive gaming.

>What tips does the Lan come with?

Generic silicone moondrop tips. They're fine. I swapped them with with Spring Tips because I have some lying around, and it sounds great with it.

Dang, been reading about bit perfect streaming all morning and my head is beginning to hurt, there's just so much more stuff to learn... guess I'll do my research before any future upgrades regarding DACs, DAPs and streaming

> Don't go [to a hi-fi store] with casual clothing, and try to speak in say a more fancy accent/dialect, usually they'll see you as coming from the upper class and treat you better

I doubt this would have worked - social attitudes in England are horrendously complicated. People putting on airs and graces to curry favour tend to be laughed at if the ruse is spotted, and even though the class system still limps on, the vast majority of British people value authenticity over artifice. Moreover, there is not a direct correlation between money and class here, even though they undoubtedly have feedback loops; people becoming immediately richer does not generally elevate them.

The class dynamics between me and Ball Scratcher make for intriguing speculation. He's probably wealthy, but his manners and attitude were rough as old boots. In class analysis terms, the seller would likely be regarded as "working class made good", and his vulgarity as "new money". I'm fairly gently-spoken, and my BBC English voice is sometimes described as "posh", but paradoxically I wonder if that caused additional resentment.

I’ve been wondering but I couldn’t find any place that seemed appropriate to ask

Any way to do this on mobile?

Driver types don't matter. What matters is FR at the ear drum.

I believe your "low res" experience is due to marketing telling you that planars are "better" and "more advanced" making confirmation bias kick in. Just like the Stax crowd thinks a 1k boost and utter lack of sub bass "lets you hear god", because "Its the best in the world since 1960".

I am certain that if people were told a headphone was a planar and it had linear bass with good fr, they would just repeat all the "planar bass" and "speed" stick, even though it really was a dd .

Lol nice to see some reality being shown towards HBB. Hope more people learn about the shit he did in past and not the facade he has made this past 2 years

> As far as the headphones- LCD2 is great. Have you tried the LCDX yet?

I should clarify that it was the LCD-2 Classic (open back). I've just spotted that the LCD-2 is another headphone (and still available).

I've not tried the LCDX, but frankly I need some salesperson recovery time prior to my next boxing tournament! 🥊 😺

My HD650s are finally starting to give out, so I am looking for something that might be an upgrade from them, I want something that is open back for that soundstage, but with punch bass so that stuff I listen to sounds enjoyable (anime music, metal, alt rock), neutrality is important too but so is a fun sound signature. Budget is around half a thousand bucks?

[deleted]

> especially if they dont carry the [Audiolab] product

They do, but only on their website. I challenged Sweaty Balls on that point, exceedingly gently, and he replied thusly (it helps if you voice the following with a mixture of anger and contempt):

> It's a shit DAC. It's not resolving. Only exceptional products are allowed in my store. I have it on my website for the likes of Richer Sounds customers.

> am I correct in summing up the experience as: > > * shop one has good products, but not the ones you like best > * shop two is run by a wanker

Yep, that's exactly it. I worried too that Shop One were excessively sluggish to deal with (I appreciate not every salesperson likes extended email conversations, but it was their idea). This made me wonder if I'd been written off as a time-waster.

> Perhaps you could ask shop one if they are able to order Audeze and Chord products for you?

I might do that, to be fair. I'd still like to buy from a bricks-and-mortar shop, and I'm not fussed about price-matching or chasing down the best deal.

> You are not obligated to listen to MQA files just because your DAC can decode them.

True, but I'd read enough about MQA Limited to decide I didn't want to give them my license money. (I'm keeping this response rather short so as not to derail the general direction of the thread - I appreciate MQA is a thorny topic).

> You could try other DACs that store one offers.

Possibly, though they have essentially refused up to this point. But I may explain that the Audeze cans were the best listen so far, and that I'd be looking for the best in-budget DAC/amp stack to drive them. The sneered-at Audiolab may indeed be fine - I wonder if I should just get Sluggish Store One to buy me the Audeze cans, and then I can restart my amp/DAC search (probably on the internet).

You'd be right that I could just get Sluggish Store One to put the same system together for me (including brands they don't normally stock) but I would be in danger of remembering Ball Scratcher's injurious snarl every time I put my cans on my head. 😆

> The owner [of Sweaty Store Two] sounds hilarious!

A real treat for masochists! 🙈