Recent comments in /f/headphones

LifeAspect t1_ja4xbw1 wrote

seems these were made in the early 70s and sold until like 74, vintage Japanese headphones (I mean obviously considering Pioneer)

Reproduction frequency band 20-20,000HzAllowable input 500MW

I can find 2 versions of the headphone, the one you have and the limited edition one. If I look online on Japanese websites

8 ohm headphones it seems

Otherwise, can't find much more myself

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09212 t1_ja4wc0l wrote

i can fully attest to this, yet i still think it's just due to the (intentional or unintentional) differences between headphones, and not a sign of 'better' technical capabilities. differing tonalities, imaging/separation capabilities and whatever else means that different headphones will make some 'details' more audible than others

probably

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The_D0lph1n t1_ja4uz1p wrote

You might find what I call "old-school audiophile" reviews better in some circumstances then, as many of them include stuff like "I put on [specific song] and the saxophone was deeper and richer, but the trumpet sounded a bit flat and lacking brilliance". Brent Butterworth (who used to write for SoundstageSolo!) did his written reviews like this, where he went through a bunch of songs and described what he heard in each on the headphone being reviewed. He then extrapolated the FR features from there, like "the bass guitar was more prominent in this track than when played on [other headphone], so I suspect there is an elevation in the upper bass." He also did measurements (after writing the entire review, so that his listening wasn't biased by seeing the measurement).

Other people don't like that style of review, because they don't see the relevance of those impressions if they don't listen to the same songs as the reviewer. So they prefer the Crin/Resolve method of describing sound in general terms, like "mids are honky", "bass is muddy", "there's good/bad detail retrieval". The downside of that style of review is that sounds and perceptions have to be described in somewhat general and vague terms.

Another problem with the first, "old-school" style is that it gets very verbose, very fast. When the whole script of the review has to fit within a 10-minute YouTube video, there's no time to describe all of the examples of where an acoustic feature is present while also including stuff about build and comfort.

I've recently started gravitating towards that "old-school" style because even if I'm not familiar with the tracks the reviewer is using, they're almost always just a Spotify search away, I can discover new music in the process, and I can better understand what a reviewer means in a description (learn the jargon), and what they value in sound.

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09212 t1_ja4th0s wrote

not exactly, but not too far off either

tuning isn't what makes a headphone, technical performance (which includes detail retrieval, staging and imaging, etc) has an equal part to play. the entire build/fit of a headphone also drastically affects the sound. placing one headphone's driver in another's casing would not give you the same sound, for example

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5YNTH3T1K OP t1_ja4sin3 wrote

Yep and that mid range bump had nothing to do with it. Right ? The way the bass end rolls off etc.

We all know that there are horse for courses. I was stupidly sucked into thinking that "this was the way" when really it was not the way at all. Do you use a scalpel for cutting a tree down? A chainsaw to shave with ? If I gave you a tea spoon and asked you to dig a well would you blame the tool? I bet you would.

The HD's are probably getting EQ'd by DJ's and their power rating is such that they can punch through the PA bleed... but everyday driving... yeah na.

If I had know what I was getting myself into... I would have def gone for a Music Lovers headphone not this dry and flat as all fuck "monitor" shite.

You may not like my opinion, I have a few, but damn the HD's are dry, midrangy, gnarly, lifeless phones. Oh god you mean I need a 20 watt headphone amp to make them shine ? Really ?

When I play a bass pad I know it's low. The HD's can kind of get the upper ranges of the sound but the guts... nope.

I Just tested the B&W against the HD and there is no contest at all. The HD's just roll off and wow is it GONE. the B&W's faithfully relay the low lows very well.

there is NO way that the HD's are "flat" down there... they are just not there !

Like I said: they sound like the 1970's "no challange to a 3 watt radio..." frequency bounding. I mean shit if I mixed my tracks like the HD's sound... you may as well through out your bass and sub bass 'cos you won't need them!

Back when BASS was a dirty word... oh no ! not BASS !!!! How lower class...

This is ridiculous. The HD's have no ass. They flat ass.

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justausername99 t1_ja4s68f wrote

What do you mean by lack of power?? The he400se doesn't need much power and sounds great with even a modest amp.

>lack of power these are not power hungry and they can't take much power either.

This sentence is literally incomprehensible. They don't need much power yet can't take much power? What are you talking about?

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Someguy14201 t1_ja4r1ut wrote

Same problem, and my right ear has killed 2 IEMs so far due to some pressure thing apparently, where it leads to driver flex. My left ear has been fine with IEMs. I hate it so much because most of my IEMs develop channel imbalance within the first 3 days I buy them. Happened with my Titan S, now with my new S12 Pros.. It's infuriating.

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GnT_Man t1_ja4qz23 wrote

fr though, don’t throw the box away yet. Use it for a few weeks and see if it truly doesn’t bother you. I had mine for about a month before returning, because by the 2nd week i realized that i genuinely didn’t want to use them because my neck started hurting from using them. By the third week i barely used them, rather going for my HD600, despite them having inferior sound in most aspects. I ended up returning the Xs and getting my Mezes instead.

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