I feel like your understanding of how we perceive sound is wrong, but I have neither the knowledge nor time necessary to argue with you. All I can tell you is that a speaker and IEM with matched frequency response sound completely different. I'm sure you'd agree that I'd be able to accurately tell you for any item I have never heard if it is a speaker, headphone or IEM, no matter how you EQ it as well. I see sound in shapes and colours and it is just completely different things.

They're very convenient at least but audio quality wise I wouldn't rank them that high if they're anything like the older xm3's. Probably great for teams calls with the integrated mic and all the other features tbh

Or ask them to try when you have the chance, for them to be amused!

I still think you should though, who knows your story might be the first one ;)

I was just ranting to the wife about the packaging difference from the 6xx and the Meze Noirs from drop. Meze feels like a much more premium opening experience.

The highest quality DACs are only around $10 in 1k units. With components+testing+profit, a very high-end unit like JDS Element is only $450.

What does it offer? Pitch-black background,neutral sound and sufficient power for any headphone.

A high quality DAC is transparent and doesn't colour the sound.

>since it has a bass boost.

Then nothing is true IEF neutral with the ER3SE coming in closest in tuning 💀

haha thanks. 😅

Hi all

sorry, where do you get these pads?

Thanks!

Yeah, I have both, but with high end I mean something like $1000 and above for just the DAC.

Unless your source is a cassette or LP, there is a DAC involved some where in the audio chain.

Salnotes Zero isn’t true IEF neutral since it has a bass boost.

Thank for letting me know... Most recommend Topping DX3pro + and the Version 2 of Ifi zen dac

Get the Klipsch hp3, you won't believe how over packaged it is.

Not just galvanic isolation but some re-clocking and other magic as well if i remember it correctly.

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Wth man, right after I just got my magni+

I've never had this problem, but it's because I wrapped my cable in a plastic spiral protector that effectively makes the cable thicker. Now my reason for the spiral protector is not to prevent tangles, it's because I have a cat who has chewed through at least half a dozen cables with soft rubber coatings (including some painfully expensive headphone cables), but he leaves hard plastic alone.

If you wanted to try it yourself, you can search for the cable protectors on amazon, they're cheap. The catch is that (a) that they make the cable a fair bit bulkier , and (b) that that they take forever to install.

I also have the same dac/amp on my desk, good choice!

Features and, in the case of some types of DAC, colouration of the sound in potentially pleasing ways.

I was gonna say the same thing. Got mine about the same time as you and mine came with the hard box as well. It might also be a new way for them to cut cost?

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galvanically isolated USB, yes.

The last part was about most "high end" manufacturer not holo audio in specific.
The may uses a custom locking 21 pin aviation cable to connect the dac with the psu. What i like about holo is that its straight porn with their pcb design and layout. If i'm correct, holo audio was the first one with the best usb implementation.

Yeah from what ive seen it really seems like it! It just makes the overall experience of getting that nice product, especially mabye if its ur first one.

Yeah accessories are a big deal aswell, the stock cable for my elegias made me frown a bit but its easy getting a replacement for a resonable amount so its fine i think.

I agree wholeheartedly. Meze unboxing is also really nice. The 109 is a wonderful sounding headphone. I don't think it's going to "wow" any muggle into instantly becoming an audiophile, but its really solid. The box and accessories are really top tier imo.