I mean, you do you, but most health organizations say that listening above 80dB will damage hearing over the course of several hours. 81-82 is too close (and too loud) for my comfort.

i'm using ifi hipdac v2. It's rated at 400mw at 32 ohm vs edition xs' 62mw requirement with 12 ohm and 92 db.
I don't know how HipDac v2 scale down to 18 ohm, but I guess it should be enough.

Imagine my surprise when I plugged my HD6XX in my trashy Asus mobo and they worked just fine

Thats a great deal but I‘m not sure wether shipping inside of europe is free too, probably not…

Welp I‘ve already bought them but let‘s see how they are. I just recently listened to Etymotic Er2se and the clarity is great, you can hear some extra instruments compared to the Chu and the soundstage is maybe 10cm wider but I want something more engaging and less clinical (er2se on tubes with 6db bass boost? (joke)

Sometimes they did ;) These ear hooks are terrible, I stopped using them… with only the cables it’s fine for the most part

Yeah you‘re right, it was probably just a coincidence. If there was a small ledge beneath the filters, that would’ve helped though

Yes 7hz Zero is really good I suppose but I bought the Truthear x Crinacle Zero. After the chus I wanted something with more bass ;) I‘ve been using the Chus with a 4db bass boost on my amp (for some tracks, not for others as it makes vocals less realistic)

Yeah could be. I‘ve noticed one side getting quieter on the Chus a while ago, now that the filters are gone they sound equally loud again. Shipping cost for new filters would prob be rather high if they‘re coming from china. I ordered the Truthear x Crinacle Zero, I hope that will last for longer :)

Try Bay Bloor Radio right downtown.

Lol, “biocellulose” is a very fancy way of saying “paper”.

Typo in the title. Delete your post 🤬

>couldn’t hear the good sound stage it is supposed to have.

>not much depth

>quickly fatigued

I’ll take a wild guess... Do you not have a proper amp/DAC? I don’t have the Edition XS but I do have other planars and they typically require a good amp with lots of current.

I don't think I missed a thing. You just want me to judge the guy. Nope.If he likes more bass, he needs headphones with more pressure capacity. You can praise the HD560s if you want, whatever. If you convince him to give them another chance and live with them anyway it's fine, if not - that's fine too.

I was describing them in the context of his message, which is related to headroom. Headroom doesn't care how the bass is tuned. It can be 6db below baseline, as long as there's headroom, it'll deliver. HD560's are the same kind of driver-earcup-earpad combination as other Senns and it doesn't have any more headroom. It's tuned differently, but the displacement just isn't there for bassheads.

Refer to distortion plots to see how HD560s is more stressed than HD660 for example. If you tune the bass up, you get less headroom - as simple as that. If someone is a heavy listener, then no amount of petty remarks towards them will change the fact that there is no replacement for displacement.

That’s a very good point. You’re making me reconsider a little. Lol. I spent a lot on speakers headphones and amps. I play mostly lossless audio on my speakers for the same reason as you. Why not on my headphones as well?

iirc the old packaging for these headphones used a lot of plastic, which sony is trying to move away from. $80 is the price one would expect for a pair like this and if the product has good build quality than there's nothing to worry about.

The L30 II is twice as powerful compared to the OG.

Yeah I did a quick gaming test with them with the Squad realistic war sounds video on YouTube and then I played a little bit of Red Dead 2 and didn’t feel very engaged.

no but i've slept with them

Ooo I’ll look into them!

I won't divulge the exact results, but it will suffice to say that the outcome was pretty much as expected.

interesing read. i like to know about other's audio journeys. please do give us an update after ur done a/b-ing.

What would you recommend for listening to must? ¡Thanks in advance

The thing you're missing is that HD560s actually have very decent, pretty linear and low distortion bass down to 40hz. Saying that they do not focus on bass is pretty much ignorant because they're one of the best hi-fi targeted headphones in this regard (better than whole HD6** series, Hifimans and lots of other headphones). The problem here is not the headphones itself, it's the fact that topicstarter boosted bass in damn Sony XM4 with already boosted bass.

Haha I'll have to get myself a golden ear trophy for my decorations lol. Seriously though I understand the sentiment of saying "there's no difference", music is music after all, and both do sound fantastic, but after spending $2600 on headphones, dac/amp and $7000 on a hifi Dolby Atmos setup I wanted to make sure I was getting the most out of my equipment. Another reason I spent the time testing was because I was subscribed to 3 different streaming services at the time and wanted to save some money by switching to just one. I literally sat there and compared 5-10 second long segments of songs and listened to specific tonal qualities of the instruments and vocals, how long the resonances lasted, minute background details such as breaths being taken or fingers scraping against strings, keys clacking, noise floor etc. Extreme critical listening stuff your average person isn't checking for when just putting something on to jam to. I think that's the perfect setup honestly lossless at home lossy on the go. Luckily I live in an area with really good 5g coverage so I can just stream 16-bit or 24-bit lossless straight from Qobuz without buffering. Best of both worlds really.

Have you had a chance to listen or compare and 16 to 24 bit music? Surprisingly there's a difference there as well, it's much more subtle but it has a slight loudness boost and way better depth to the low end of tracks. The first 24 bit CD I bought was Post Malone's Beerbongs and Bentleys and I had to adjust my subwoofer from the added bass 😂. Also have you heard any DOLBY Atmos or 360 Audio content? It's not lossless but it adds a whole different feel to music as well having specific instruments sounding as if they're placed throughout the room not coming from the speakers, it's evolutionary stuff, I can't wait till they come up with a lossless spatial audio now that will be something!