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Maccabee2 t1_j51ayjs wrote
Reply to comment by psychedoutcasts in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
The notion of Europeans in the Middle Ages not washing themselves is an outdated one. Street sanitation, however, in many cities, encouraged vectors to multiply.
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Kenilwort t1_j519pfu wrote
Reply to comment by Doobledorf in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
The confusion was that those fleas are called rat fleas but they can live on many different warm-blooded hosts. Camels, dogs, humans, etc.
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yoshinosumoto t1_j5164vh wrote
Reply to comment by Rear-gunner in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
Explains urban centers but back then those are far and few between. Even rural areas got hit hard by the black plague.
NotAnotherEmpire t1_j515uuq wrote
Reply to comment by LightsoutSD in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
Pneumonic plague can indeed be spread person to person by coughing.
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kenlasalle t1_j515ny1 wrote
With great stubbornness and irritability.
QuiGonChuck t1_j515kft wrote
No, the plague was a result of immense overpopulation and crowded living spaces resulting in humans living in their own filth. Rats were just there
One_Hand_Smith t1_j515i47 wrote
Reply to comment by ThorFinn_56 in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
Iirc wasn't it from trade ships coming and going from Asia to one of the prominent city states in italy?
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OutOfStamina t1_j5128l2 wrote
Reply to comment by brownie81 in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
So in other words, fleas and rats. got it. I think which directly caused the infection with bites/feces is irrelevant.
I think we could also call it, "poor hygiene" or "general hygiene not sufficient enough to support the population of the world at the time".
Wooglets t1_j5126lj wrote
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Happy cake day and thanks for putting in the extra effort for us lazy ones
simojako t1_j511cml wrote
Reply to comment by Doobledorf in The Black Death may not have been spread by rats after all by Rear-gunner
If you read the paper it's questioning the reservoirs of the disease, not if it's rat or fleas.
Transmitting via fleas still requires the rats to move them, so to speak.
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Irichcrusader t1_j50w4e1 wrote
Reply to comment by Skookum_J in Bookclub and Sources Wednesday! by AutoModerator
Yeah, I've read Empire of the Sea and loved it, guy's got a real knack for making history come alive. Still have yet to check out Conquerors and his book on Venice, which I've also heard good stuff about.
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Valiantheart t1_j50rb7i wrote
Rats might be slow moving, but ships and grain carts are not.
deviousdumplin t1_j50r1sw wrote
When I was studying the Black Death in college 10 years ago the emerging research suggested that the species of flea most closely associated with spreading the plague actually lives primarily on European gerbils.
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