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TOMMYSNICKLES89 t1_j5q843w wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
Lmao accuses someone else of hyperbole and then goes on to overuse the word 'perpetually' and make super vague accusations against the general term of 'journalists'. We see your slant, chief. You ain't slick.
axtonian OP t1_j5pysq4 wrote
Reply to Scarborough excavation reveals rare finds, which offer insight into Stone Age life. by axtonian
Excavations in Scarborough reveal bones of hunted animals, and tools made of wood and antler, which were all preserved through peat bogs. It would have been a small settlement, based on an island in a lake, which would later have been joined to Britain after being filled with peat.
bangdazap t1_j5px52x wrote
Reply to comment by RocketButters in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
1940s-50s maybe? That was a "golden age" of the American middle/working class of sorts, but then the US was the last man standing industrially in a world ravaged by war, China today has to contend with more aggressive competitors.
bangdazap t1_j5pwprj wrote
Reply to comment by mobyhex in Bookclub and Sources Wednesday! by AutoModerator
You might enjoy A Bright Shining Lie - John Paul Van and the American War in Vietnam by Neil Sheehan, a colleague of Halberstam's during the early part of the Vietnam War. It covers the early part of the Vietnam War, through the lens of US adviser to the RVN John Paul Van.
Another colleague of Halberstam's was Michael Herr, who wrote Dispatches (I think it's a collection of reports he filed during the war). More of an impressionistic picture of the war, less of a history. You might recognize some of the scenes from the film Apocalypse Now from this book (IIRC, it was a while since I read it).
Not a history of the war, but William W. Prochnau's Once Upon a Distant War is a story about the young journalists (Halberstam among them) who caused the US government so much grief through their reporting on the Vietnam War. Find out why some called it "Halberstam's War".
GSilky t1_j5p8ci0 wrote
Reply to ‘Which sites should be saved, and which sites should be allowed to decay?’ — Climate change is accelerating, amplifying existing risks and creating new ones, the consequences of which could be devastating for the global archaeological record by marketrent
Would actively deciding what to save become something that ends up biasing future historical exploration to the point that it makes the enterprise dubious? The sites we have for study are completely random, and that definitely biases our view of the past. Think about the generations of people in the deccan who built and lived with perishable material that have no record beyond the impact they had on people who built with stone, or how we pay so much attention to a hundred year period of Roman history but can't figure out where Valerian was at certain crucial engagements because of the sources available. Would the process of saving sites not create a similar issue in the future?
GSilky t1_j5p7g1h wrote
Sometimes a society's culture is developed in relation to it's competitors. For example the USA adopted it's motto and several patriotic rituals in response to the Soviet Union. Is there an example of this with Rome in regards to the Parthians/Persians? Was there anything of note that developed in Rome based on the challenges Parthia presented beyond military strategy? I don't mean "popular in Persia and it spread", but like "In god we trust" being stamped on money as a direct response to the perceived stance of the competition?
mobyhex t1_j5p7607 wrote
Reply to Bookclub and Sources Wednesday! by AutoModerator
I'm on my 3rd time through the audiobook version of The Best and the Brightest by David Halberstam. Anyone else enjoy this book? Just absolutely THEE most enjoyable book I have ever read. I'm trying to figure out what makes me keep coming back to this book and wondering if there are any others like it out there.
I love it because:
- It's a deeply personal take by a great writer
- It's has an ambitious breadth and tells a wide range of interconnected stories - I thoroughly enjoy his approach - I never felt quite lost - but by the end I always want to start over.
- It concentrates on all the 2nd to 5th tier policy people who made the Vietnam tragedy possible
- I love Cold War history
- The narrator on this audiobook is just a perfect match for the content
- There's a kind of a smarmy, joyous glee in bringing some of these people down to scale. I just listened to the stuff on McGeorge Bundy and couldn't get enough.
- It's a breathtakingly tragic story in the end - so many steps along the way - so many had a hand in letting this inch on and on.
- Love the stuff on China, the background on losing China.
I've never encountered a book that gave me such a thorough understanding of events while at the same time being a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Are there other history/nonfiction authors like this?
GSilky t1_j5p6pv1 wrote
Reply to comment by Depatio in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
The "road". Passes, rivers, low plains, and anywhere else that people find easier to traverse are where most towns developed. These pathways would intersect and if there was enough people passing through to support full-time occupation, a town would develop.
ThaBeardedMan t1_j5ozw91 wrote
Hello people!
I’ve been reading a lot on the Renaissance lately and have been fascinated with the Florentine society called The Company of the Cauldron. I’m trying to find some sort of emblem/logo/insignia for it but I’ve had no luck. Was just wondering if anyone can help me out with my search!
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Reply to The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
in 1952 alan turing was arrested for acknowledging a sexual relationship between him and his male partner to the police during a burglary investigation. they gave him a choice of prison or undergo hormone therapy to receive probation. he chose probation and was forcibly administered diethylstilbistrol (estrogen medication) for one year. he developed breast tissue and became impotent. could be unrelated but he committed suicide in 1954
badmancatcher t1_j5oi02s wrote
Reply to comment by IllustriousArcher199 in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
I will check that too. I'm doing a PhD around the subject area, so I'm just absorbing information at the moment
RocketButters t1_j5ohi6y wrote
Compared to the US what period in time is China in economically?
I felt like there are a lot of parallels between China and the US. China is a country currently shifting away from being a low-quality producer and becoming a country with an exploding middle class, growing domestic brands, and a ton of innovation. At what point in US history were we similar to that?
Would this be like a roaring 20s or is there a period in the US that more closely parallels?
IllustriousArcher199 t1_j5ogek2 wrote
Reply to comment by badmancatcher in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
States of desire by Edmund White was a pretty good. He writes about the state of gay life in different states, and he particularly mentions Utah. Of course, things have changed, but it gives you a sense of life for gay men in different states and cities pre 1980s.
Annie0minous t1_j5nzwok wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
It doesn't feel like it's that far back in history given similar things are still happening today. It's not re-prosecuting. It's teaching.
badmancatcher t1_j5nw14t wrote
Reply to comment by earthman34 in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
I'll follow that up thansk!
And Hunphrey Lauds Tearoom Trade (despite the ethical problems). Also George Chaunceys Gay New York and Matt Cooks A New City of Friends.
I can pull out more if people want!
MeatballDom t1_j5nvluh wrote
Reply to comment by Chefs-Kiss in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
Not really worried. Even if/when AI Bots start writing history books they still will have to be reviewed. Already today we have humans writing Nazi apologetics and it hasn't changed the scholarly view of Nazism. I do particularly love (odd word choice but I can't think of a better one) the books from the late 40s that have apologies in them that the research was delayed due to the Nazis, imprisonment, being forbidden from working because they were Jewish, fighting a war, etc. it's so casual and yet so impactful.
Our main job as historians is to evaluate evidence, we look at at the sources and don't just repeat what they say but examine it. In my work I go down to the very words they use. I've written ~50 pages on ~50 word passages before. So far what we've seen with AI bots (and spotting them quickly) is some very odd word choice.
So as long as we continue to have historians, and as long as we continue to examine these works -- no matter when, where, by who or what they written, then the field really isn't in danger.
Is there a threat to the general public? Sure. But again, no more than the already available things out there, and the fringe and extremists groups pushing it.
Then_Disaster6152 t1_j5nrywa wrote
Does anyone have any links to H.H Asquiths life before he became prime minister?
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dewayneestes t1_j5no703 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
This is basically what George Michael was arrested for in the UK, go watch his letterman interview. It wasn’t THAT long ago.
skweetis__ t1_j5nl5cw wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
"this is exaggeration to a hyperbolic endpoint"
"journalists want to perpetually re-prosecute generations-old crimes"
" they should be perpetually prosecuted for the women and children Shaka slaughtered"
It's actually an article in a magazine we're talking about here, not prosecuting people for genocide, but do go on about hyperbole. It's clear that talking about these crimes of the past is threatening to you. The question is why. I have a guess!
ifsck t1_j5nk8om wrote
Reply to comment by RockyLeal in Reassembling a 15th century ship: "The world's largest 3-D puzzle" by ArtOak
IIRC there was part of Bayon that had been cataloged and the stones from crumbled sections were marked and laid in adjacent open areas by an archeological team, then the records were lost during the Khmer Rouge regime. When I went in 2009 there were blocks with numbers everywhere but no one knew exactly where they went or how to fit them together again.
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Reply to comment by skweetis__ in The Forgotten History of Gay Entrapment: Routine arrests were the linchpin of a social system intended to humiliate LGBTQ people by PhillipCrawfordJr
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