Depends on the state of the wreck and the interest/cost of raising and preserving it.

The Mary Rose and The Vasa are examples of ships that have been raised.

>The condition of the wreck is remarkable and could offer a wealth of information about how 17th-century Dutch ships were built

17th century was not really that long ago in Europe in the grand scheme of things, surely we have a great deal of information already without this bringing some new revelation?
To suggest we do not already have a wealth of information on how 17th century ships were built in Holland just sounds a joke, when the Dutch have a huge history of shipping expertise that's world renowned.

Depends on the water though?

Near Scandinavia there is a place where wooden ships are extremly well preserved while under water.

https://www.marineinsight.com/videos/watch-400-years-old-dutch-merchant-ship-found-in-the-gulf-of-finland/

Cant really find it in the article but there are no bacteria/animals that destroy the wood.

Can i have names of historical figures that were brought down because they were feared to be too strong and competent? Kinda like Napoleon .

Dunno. But it would make a great tourist attraction to raise it, repair it fully, and put it in a city square or something.

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Official page about the discovery with multiple videos and photos

https://www.nauticalarchaeologysociety.org/klein-hollandia

Sort of, but it's a little bit different from Japan. The Chinese term 赐死 roughly translates to "ordered/forced suicide" in English.
Seppuku was mostly voluntary and often considered honorable.
On the other hand, only the king or the Emperor in China had the power to order someone to commit suicide. Unlike seppuku, the ordered suicide in China was not exactly honored, but it was certainly better than execution.

For example, if Wu Zixu was ordered to be executed,  he would be treated like a criminal with no dignity. He had to spend his time in jail eating terrible or even spoiled food, wearing dirty clothes, living in a filthy cell room, etc. When the time came, the peasants would watch his execution in public. And worse, since he was considered guilty of treason, his family and relatives could also be exiled or executed.
So when Fu Chai ordered him to commit suicide, it more or less sent a message like this:

"Look, Wu Zixu, you have committed a terrible crime. Normally, you and your children will be executed, your siblings and parents will be exiled, and your grandchildren will be known as the desendents of the traitor. But since you have made significant contributions to our kingdom, I'm giving you the choice to end all of this with dignity. I promise you, everything will be resolved once you end your life, and your family will be spared. If you don't do it now, then I have to do it myself. Things will get really ugly, for me, for you, and for your family."

When the Emperor ordered you to commit suicide, you would usually receive one or more of the following: a long strip of white silk (for hanging yourself), a cup of poisoned wine, or a sword. Before ending yourself, you would need to thank the emperor for allowing you to keep your (and your family's) dignity. You will not be honored, but you will not look too bad in history record and your family will be saved.

Interesting fact; ships that sailed to the colonies often had gold or silver as cargo to pay the local armies, employees or to pay for trade goods as opposed to ships sailing back, which carried trade goods only.

The "Batavia"is a good example.

I’d like to dive that wreck with a metal detector though if I was younger and healthier though! It’s crazy to me something like half the gold ever mined is at the bottom of the ocean. I bet at Cape Horn there’s probably billions in gold that sank trying to get through that area in bad weather, but it’s probably tough diving conditions and still a pretty big area to search.

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Nah, they're like a powder that is still in it's original shape. Trying to do anything with it would just disintegrate it

During the Christian period, pagan statues intentionally had heads/arms/legs removed, and thrown in the sewers. Sometimes it was while statues.

No, but it's possible to raise it in pieces and later reassemble it ashore.

That said, unlikely.

Edit: @ below, no it wouldnt disintegrate into dust. It's waterlogged and you cannot let it it just sit there, but need to keep it wet while treating it, but it wont just crumble into dus once you've raised it.

Many wrecks have been preserved this way.

First of all- thank you for the explanation. The text said:

“Then he cut his throat and died. When the king of Wu heard about it he was enraged and seized his corpse”.

After reading what you said and rereading that part it makes a lot more sense now. He says the following before dying:

“You must plant my grave with catalpa trees in order that they may be used for vessels. And gouge out my eyes and suspend them above Wu East gate so that I may see Yüech invaders enter and destroy Wu”.

So I figured he was physically talking to the executioner who had the blade already on his throat or something. That’s why I thought it was an execution.

Was that considered an honorable death? I know WW2 Japanese forces carries daggers they’d use to commit seppuku as it was considered honorable. Obviously there’s a MASSIVE time difference between those two periods haha.

Thanks again for the assistance!

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Not much. Wooden ships at the bottom that long aren't really together in a way you can raise anymore.

Thankfully not haha. I’m just reading The Art Of War by Sun Tzu because I wanted to get into reading. I get it’s not exactly a beginner read but so far I’ve understood enough of it except for this section. The translator was describing Wu Tzu Hsu’s life in the introduction but the way he summarized all the wars and events into just a few pages kind of made it confusing for someone who has never studied that time period. I found his “character” interesting enough that I was curious why he was executed. Hence this post.

I plan on reading “On War” by Carl Von Clausewitz next just for fun. Again- probably not a beginner read either but whatever haha. I think they make you read it if you join military or something (don’t quote me on that) so I suppose you could say I’m doing someone’s homework for fun 😂

Whats the likelihood that she will be raised?

I made this same post on /r/AskHistorians, but figured I'd put it here too.

I've probably seen this guy posted a dozen times on reddit as the guy who "popularized circumcision as masturbation prevention in America".

It doesn't seem to be the case, at all. Honestly, this is a fascinating read. It was published in 1877.

I'll add another source below.

P. C. Remondino, M.D., 1891

>In the United States, France, and in England, there is a class which also observe circumcision as a hygienic precaution, where, from my personal observation, I have found that circumcision is thoroughly practiced in every male member of many of the families of the class,—this being the physician class. In general conversation with physicians on this subject, it has really been surprising to see the large number who have had themselves circumcised, either through the advice of some college professor while attending lectures or as a result of their [iv]own subsequent convictions when engaged in actual practice and daily coming in contact both with the benefits that are to be derived in the way of a better physical, mental, and moral health, as well as with the many dangers and disadvantages that follow the uncircumcised,—the latter being probably the most frequent incentive and determinator,—as in many of these latter examples the operation of circumcision, with its pains, annoyances, and possible and probable dangers, sink into the most trifling insignificance in comparison to some of the results that are daily observed as the tribute that is paid by the unlucky and unhappy wearer of a prepuce for the privilege of possessing such an appendage.

It was not uncontroversial at the time, either.

>By many surgeons the idea of circumcision, unless connected with an immediate demand for interference,—such as a phimosis unmanageable by any other means, an induced phimosis from gonorrhœa or other irritation, syphilis in its initiatory sore, cancer or some such cause,—is looked upon as an unwarrantable operation, a procedure not only barbarous, painful, and dangerous, but one that directly interferes with the intentions of nature. The prepuce is by many looked upon as a physiological necessity to health and the enjoyment of life, which, if removed, is liable to induce masturbation, excessive venereal desire, and a train of other evils.

It seems to me, circumcision in America arose mainly out of a belief that that there is a hygiene benefit to it. This belief spread among physicians, and became recommended for newborns. It was also used as a treatment for all sorts of diseases.

>Agnew believes in circumcision in the treatment of reflex troubles. He relates a case, in the second volume of his “Surgery,” of eczema extending over the abdomen, of over a year’s standing, cured in a child by circumcision; he operates by incision on the dorsum, in which he leaves nature to make away with the flaps, or he circumcises by the Bumstead method.

The thesis that the widespread adoption of circumcision in America was due to prude Christian influence to get their their offspring to stop masturbating doesn't seem to hold up when you look at the sources.

>There is one thing that must be admitted concerning circumcision: this being that, among medical men or men of ordinary intelligence who have had the operation performed, instead of being dissatisfied, they have extended the advantages they have themselves received, by having those in their charge likewise operated upon. The practice is now much more prevalent than is supposed, as there are many Christian families where males are regularly circumcised soon after birth, who simply do so as a hygienic measure.

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This strikes me as asking for homework help...

Can anyone help me out with my post over here?

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/10ntls6/what_proof_is_there_that_john_kellogg_circumcised/

I can't find proof that John Kellogg (of Kellogg's cereal) was an anti-masturbation crusader like his wikipedia page, and occasional r/TIL post says. It seems to be a misreading of the source.

Cool, she served her country wel. In her last fight she contributed to a successful escape of a Dutch merchant convoy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_of_12_March_1672?wprov=sfla1