Reading Wolf hall atm, just wondering if Henry VIII had an illegitimate son who was one of the most powerful lords in the country, why not legitimise him and sort out your male heir problem? Seems more convenient than the route he eventually took.

You're right, as Gaul became a province with Caesar and then fully part of the empire. By the collapse, the population was well romanized.

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Many Romans were already moving into France during the time of Caesar, so at the time of collapse, there is a sizable population of Romans established in France already

“That's a smart move, Mike”

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Yes, the British public school system was programmed to ensure this world view was held by attendees to create a distinct sense of Britishness amongst the upper classes. It still exists, just look at Boris Johnson.

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Close enough. I'm actually impressed.

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>Well, we know there were links between Scotland and the Islamic world in the twelfth century.

This is true, and we know it even further back than that. Right-through trade links existed between Romano-Britain for wealthy traders, while different routes were available to the mixed peoples of the post-Romano vacuum, and beyond.

By the 12th century some trade and communication links were so robust you could make a cash deposit in Edinburgh and withdraw it in local currency as you got off the boat in the Holy Land. True story!

EDIT: Downvotes but no challenge as to which part of this you consider incorrect? Peculiar.

Second edit... faith in common sense restored... and now I'm off down a hole in the rain, wish me luck 😂

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Yes this. I get the impression that an upper class male demeanour of those times was often tending towards a flamboyant, carefree, foppish, quirky and theatrical demeanour. Perhaps it fell out of favour in the more practical times of the Second World War and beyond. This doesn’t mean they were necessarily more gay but maybe a gay man might have been at home in this environment, if he kept his sexuality very private.

The negative side of this culture was that it was a privileged and rarefied existence, only sustainable amongst an elite who could afford to ignore the real world and be child-like and peculiar if they wanted to be.

This culture seems to live on, to some limited extent, in the British public school educated elite. To an Australian looking on from a distance, people like Boris Johnson and that Reece-Mogs (?) person seem ludicrously foppish and embarrassingly campy and extreme in many ways.

Yesss!!! This is what I was asking for. Isn't this much more fun to read? I love knowing the etymology of words, and I DO often think about what names mean. Thank you!

Worth mentioning that Anthony in Brideshead Revisited is based on two real people: the writers Brian Christian de Claiborne Howard and Howard Acton.

Well you see the prince and heir of the castle was participating in the Third Crusade. This young Crusader was captured… while awaiting his punishment for theft, he attempts escape. His comrades are killed but his escape is assisted by a local. The men escape the city together, find a boat, and make their way back to England er… I mean Scotland. They become legendary outlaws, and they fight a war against a usurping sheriff…

Thank you. I don’t think I’ve listened to him before.

Wow are you a scientist or something

Probably go flat before that. Better drink it up.

As you've stated, this event occurs within the Gothic Wars, an attempt of reconquer by the Eastern empire. It goes a bit beyond the only migration process itself we were discussing here, although it is a consequence of it. Quite sadly, the large amount of deaths actually occured with the attempt of reconquer, Justinian plague etc

It is obvious that nothing is white or black. Yes, violent episodes occured without a doubt throughout the territory, the barbarians themselves were not a unique people, they all had different ways of bringing changes into the places they arrived. The Wisigoths for example did not have the same relationship towards religion than let's say the Vandals. For very much detail, each tribe and place should be studied separately.

Changes were not unseenable, true. They were even needed. Otherwise, the Empire would not have "fallen". But as I have emphasized, this is why the old roman families and clergy was, and has been, very important in the process. Small populations of the countryside were more in contact with their local bishop than the king.

Getting there might have given it the hump.

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>It can’t have been fun for the camel.

Why not? Camels would love it in Ireland, sure its great craic!

Really the Romans probably did more to bring down their own empire than did the barbarians from the outside with all the corruption and tax farming and the like. The far more simplified structure of the Germanic tribes would have been a help.

Wait, wait, wait. The Drones are a very specific class of aristocratic younger sons. The older sons were being prepped for positions in running the estate, government, trade, the army etc. After those sons you had a bunch of sons who had no role, and lived idle lives on middling stipends.

At the time, open homosexuality was absolutely not tolerated. Campy is not the same as openly gay, but those who walked the line too closely would sometimes find themselves packed off to remote places and sometimes even married off under threat of being "cut off" - that is having their stipend withdrawn.