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zhivago6 t1_j72dt2e wrote

There is little info on Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horwennefer

Most of the information about this I got from reading research papers. There are lots of things like the Rosetta Stone that reference the revolt, but the Ptolomeys wanted to destroy all evidence of it. They have found papyrus fragments that give us a little info, that's how we know about the families of the warriors being sold into slavery. There was one document that implied the Ptolomeys were concerned that Hannibal would join the rebels after the defeat of Carthage.

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SowetoNecklace t1_j72drua wrote

Bonjour et merci pour l'AMA.

Can you tell us a little more about the role "researchers in ethics" played your work ? At which step(s) did they intervene and wht credentials did they have?

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LeMonde_en OP t1_j72d7id wrote

Hi, thanks for your question! I think that part of the answer lies in finding stories with something visual at the heart of the subject. That’s why we recently created a video team investigating videos and satellite imagery. When you can show something as proof, the story almost comes by itself. For example, this story about police violence during the Yellow Vest movement of 2019 sparked an interesting debate in France about police regulation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRVrbLeLAB8
At the same time, some of the most interesting videos I have worked on are the ones where we had absolutely NO visual documentation at the beginning. I wanted to tell the story of French war crimes against women of the resistance during the Algerian war (1954-1962). There was no video and almost no photos. We created “Louisette”, a short animated film based on the only known audio testimony of one these women.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CNyiSwzCIg&vl=fr-CH

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Goetterwind t1_j72cbv9 wrote

Yes and no. Chinese is even more limited in sound. Both however write the corresponding Chinese sign onto their hand during conversation in order to facilitate communication. Hiragana was a writing system for women (they were not allowed to use Kanji) in order to be able to write, while katakana comes from a sect in order to make sense out of the Buddhist texts written in Chinese. Both languages are fundamentally different...

In Japanese there is actually no need for the Kanji imo, but it would make the language much much muuuuch more complicated to write...

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FallenFamilyTree t1_j72c3ak wrote

Fascinating! Just the level of detail, and analysis/commentary I wish Wikipedia had more often. Just a shame I can't find a Wikipedia for this event (maybe someone should make one!).

To fill in a few details, it sounds like Egypt was effectively a Greek state post-Alexander the Great, run by the Ptolemaic Pharaoh's. The native Egyptians in Thebaid ("Upper Egypt", ironically now in the south of modern Egypt) rose up in rebellion, against their Greek rulers and managed to take control of most of the Egyptian state under their own Pharaoh. Thanks in part to the backing of the Roman Republic, the Ptolemaic Pharaoh's survived the revolt - I'm assuming as much as it is called a revolt and not a revolution. What was the opposition Pharaoh called and do we have more details about what happened?

Edit: I did some research and I'm presuming the "Egyptian Revolt (206BC - 185BC)" was led by Hornwennefer (and subsequently Ankhwennerfer) against the Pharaoh Ptolemy V.

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IeyasuMcBob t1_j72ayfh wrote

To try and help you understand the downvotes (actually didn't downvote your comment myself)

  1. I don't think a huge proportion of the Arab-hating USA population would be particularly fussed over the distinction between Arabic and Hindu-Arabic, though you are right that there is a difference.

  2. Roman numerals for instance.

The analogy isn't perfect, granted, but it works, let's say enough, to discuss at least.

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thebrainitaches t1_j727rdv wrote

Hey! Félicitations on the really cool video.

What video story have you worked on where you felt that the format really helped show the journalism in a new or interesting light??

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ada_c03 t1_j723vg8 wrote

The Japanese language has very limited sounds, many words sound the same and the meaning is only gleaned through the kanji characters used to write it or from context. Erasing kanji would make the language even harder to understand. Anyway, both hiragana and katakana were created using pieces of kanji, so Chinese characters are in all of their forms of writing.

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zhivago6 t1_j71xwq0 wrote

The Great Thebaid Revolt is one of the most important events in history and one of the least known. Native Egyptians named a Pharoah and fought to take the nation from the Greeks, seizing half the country in over 2 decades of war. There are temples with inscriptions naming the new liberator of Egypt. During the revolt the Ptolomaic pharoahs borrowed more and more money from the rising power of Rome who defeated Carthage during this time. The Selucids and Macedonia seized the Levant and Cypress from the Ptolomeys, but Rome warned both kingdoms not to move into Egypt itself or they would risk war with Rome.

All the assistance that Egypt got from Rome cemented a relationship that barely existed before and the Romans sent ambassadors and possibly advisors to Egypt for the first time. The revolt also fundamentally changed key aspects of Egyptian government and culture. Prior to the Great Thebaid Revolt taxes were collected by the priests in temples, but because many temples sided with the Native Egyptians, the Ptolomeys completely changed the method of collecting taxes. This in turn dramatically reduced the influence and power of temples and subsequently the Ancient Egyptian religion.

The defeated warriors were often executed, their entire families sold into slavery, and their property seized. Many temples also lost their land allotments and without the taxes many could not be funded and shut down. Eventually Egypt would be the main driver of economic growth for the entire Roman Empire and that all started because of the revolt.

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indian_mofo t1_j71jka1 wrote

Firstly, they're Hindu- Arabic numerals so different Secondly, the 'hate' against Arabs and Muslims isn't mainstream in US as opposed to Japanese nationalism which was the norm at that time. Lastly, Japanese does have (sort of) native writing systems I.e Hiragana and katakana which could have replaced Kanji (which is pretty much Chinese Characters) but same can't be said for Hindu- Arabic numerals. What can they be replaced with?

So your analogy is just wrong.

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Thibaudborny t1_j71g5aw wrote

Personally, I'm more into early modern Spain (for which I'd recommend the books by JH Elliott or Geoffrey Parker), but as far as medieval Spain goes, the picks from my personal library are:

  • LP Harvey, "Islamic Spain,1250 to 1500"
  • Townsend Miller, "Henry IV of Castille"
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