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exorcyst t1_j7995qw wrote

WTF I had no clue.. he didn't do well in his trial for mutiny iirc, he was brutal to his crew. The guy escaped mob rule death a few times apparently. Pure survivor though his 6500km journey in a banished skiff is incredible and likely never replicated. Very interesting character of history. Guys like him will never me made again. A mutant never considered for mass production

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AngryBlitzcrankMain t1_j798i1e wrote

I mean its not direct, but its one of the examples I am even aware of. Ivan III of Russia married the princess of Byzantine empire, niece of the emperor Constantine and started to use the title of gosudar (Grand Prince). His grandson Ivan the Terrible used his connection to the emperor of Byzantine empire and crowned himself the first Russian tsar, called Moscow the "third Rome", started to use Byzantine symbols as his own etc.

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en43rs t1_j795ixv wrote

That wrong. Rome didn’t impose its polytheism. According to Roman theology the Egyptian gods were basically the same as theirs. Traditional beliefs were kept in place with some Greek influences and some syncretism. The last traces we have of traditional Egyptian religion is around the 4th century AD.

When the Muslims arrived the country was Christian. And wasn’t imposed and neither was the shift quick. It’s only in the late Middle Ages that Islam became the majority religion.

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ImOnlyHereCauseGME t1_j793tbt wrote

Are there any direct familial lines from any of the Roman/Byzantium emperors that later became leaders after those empires collapsed? Even if they were just puppets for others I would think the direct lineage with Rome might give them some legitimacy to rule.

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Star-Lord0069 t1_j792x92 wrote

Egypt had local polytheism (ancient Egyptian religion and mythology) before it was subjucated by Roman Empire. After which, the Roman polytheism was imposed on them. Egypt ultimately switched to Islamic faith when early Islamic empires conquered Egypt.

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richvide0 t1_j7919b2 wrote

Oh God yes. With mayo-ketchup mmm.

We have have a breadfruit tree (we call it pana in Puerto Rico) but the damn thing hardly produces any fruit and when it does it's too high to harvest. Then I drive down the street and I see a tree teaming with them.

I was told to hit a rusty nail into the tree to help it produce. I did it. Haven't seen any results so far.

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MeatballDom t1_j790v7k wrote

Well there are a couple of different ways you can have this transfer of power (and this is by no means an exhaustive list).

You can have a complete territorial wipeout/genocide, population exchange, what have you where you're bringing in your own people and the old people are gone from the land. In such a case, you're really only bringing over the problems you already had, but the support as well.

You might chose to enslave the locals, which again, helps your problem of trying to win them over, but you do then risk a revolt.

You could try to intermarry, combine local and introduced populations.

Or, you can simply keep existing power structures in place with a new figurehead at the top. Instead of fighting for Emperor so and so, you now fight for me, when I call for you, you're marching for me. I might make you give up a certain amount of your army, or take some of your sons hostage where they will live in luxury in my home city just so you know there will be strong consequences if you try anything, but overall you get to keep the same local politicians, the same local bankers, businessmen, and the guy who ran the city previously now just listens to me, or maybe another big and respected member of the population who everyone already likes. You maintain your culture, your language, your art, and so forth.

Under the latter system, the common person probably wouldn't notice much of a change, but the more the conquering person interferes, the more effect it will have on you -- but also the greater chance you have of revolt, unless you just kill everyone. But if you kill everyone, you lose people to work the land, businesses that already thrived and could make money for you, specialised military units, and so on and so forth.

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phillipgoodrich t1_j78wmpr wrote

Watch for map references to "licks." These are natural salt sources, typically from springs/brooks that are partially dry. In central Missouri, there are "Booneslick" everything: roads, trails, libraries, etc. All refer to a natural "salt lick" owned and operated by Daniel Boone and his kin through Nathan, just west of present-day Columbia, MO. But "licks" are found all over the forest lands of the midwest.

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avalon1805 t1_j78wlm8 wrote

How were the periods between changes of power? For example, I've been reading about alexander the great, how he conquered a lot of territories. What would happen to the common people in, let's say, central asia when Alxendar defeated the former power?

I know it would be different for every place and for every moment, such as when the western roman empire fell, or the ptolemies went to egypt.

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Well_why_not1953 t1_j78ut6s wrote

Just to add what others are saying, don't forget trade. Pre-Columbian Indians had extensive trade networks to obtain what they could not get locally. Items from the great lakes area have been found all the way to the Gulf Coast and vice versa. Trade in the southern plains extended all the way to South America and the Pacific coast Salt was a great trade item.

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