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chicken_nugget08 t1_j7e61d1 wrote

Reply to Weekly History Questions Thread. by AutoModerator

I cannot for the life of me remember the name of a philosopher. Here’s what I got: he was an older philosopher (from Greece possibly?) that got popular during the medieval era and essentially sent people into tailspins because of his belief that “you can’t truly know anything”. I also remember that the way the medievals found out about him was that some dude published his works cause he thought the belief was ridiculously stupid.

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NotTRYINGtobeLame t1_j7e49v8 wrote

Reply to comment by oldguy_on_the_wire in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

Well, fuck. My second thought was going to be cost concerns. Guess I should've gone with that lol I just don't know which came first, chicken or egg.

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Sunnyjim333 t1_j7e3l2f wrote

Reply to comment by Anathos117 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

The USA is still a "young" country. We have a poor sense of time here. If a building is 50 years old it is ancient. Sadly we do not build to last. Many old beautiful buildings are torn down for parking lots, mass transit is abysmal. You have to have a car to do any traveling, walking is not possible, stores are too far apart.

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oldguy_on_the_wire t1_j7e374r wrote

Reply to comment by NotTRYINGtobeLame in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

I would think any use of lead plates as boundary markers would have died out as iron (a ferromagnetic material and thus more easily located with a detector) became cheaper than lead.

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oldguy_on_the_wire t1_j7e2tbr wrote

Reply to comment by ElJamoquio in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

Not the one you asked, but continental drift is a very slow process and would likely move all the land around the marker identically, with the net effect of no difference.

An earthquake OTOH would have the definite possibility of moving the marker itself thus changing the boundary lines.

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The-Last-Dog t1_j7e2t5i wrote

Reply to comment by duncan345 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

If you have ever seen the description of a USATF certified race course, segments and turns are described as "x feet from the nail." That nail is those metal surveyor markers.

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EmperorGeek t1_j7e2soa wrote

Reply to comment by duncan345 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

My mother recently bought a piece of property where one corner of the property was described as being bounded by a “buried axle”, and I was in fact able to locate said buried axle! I will say I was surprised to find that an actual axle shaft had been buried in the ground.

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Anathos117 t1_j7e2hgp wrote

Reply to comment by Sunnyjim333 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

> 160 years (In the USA that is a long time).

In some parts of it, maybe, but hardly all of it. There's a street in my town that's 400 years old.

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AstarteHilzarie t1_j7e1u0v wrote

Reply to comment by EpsomHorse in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

Things above ground are easily moved, intentionally tampered with, or removed by someone who doesn't realize the significance. Burying it makes it a more secure option, especially when you want it to stay put for decades or centuries. People who are looking for it can easily find it with the right tools, but it won't be bothersome to people who don't need access to it.

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_Rainer_ t1_j7dziq0 wrote

Reply to comment by wakka55 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

They were traditionally buried so they wouldn't be disturbed. They'd record its position and then put it deep enough that people weren't likely to disturb it with a plow or things like that.

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McLeansvilleAppFan t1_j7dxaxk wrote

Reply to comment by WellHacktually in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

I know and I was just pointing out that any other reference would be VERY obscure it would seem. Hence my comment, "(I) Never heard this term in the context..."

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EpsomHorse t1_j7dwhnh wrote

Reply to comment by duncan345 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

> Surveyors have been burying metal markers to establish boundary lines for a long time.

Why would you bury things that are supposed to serve as markers? Why not put a plaque qt ground level, or drive a pin down vertically until it's half buried, or use a stone marker above the ground?

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CaeciliusEstInPussy t1_j7dvm1o wrote

Reply to Why didn't Japan excise Chinese characters from the Japanese language, when Japan hated China so much? by 3cana

If the English got rid of the French in English out of hatred for the French, there’d be many missing holes. I assume unlearning language and vocabulary you grow up with is impractical and difficult for the average Joe or Jane. I’m not a linguist or a historian, but to me it seems unpractical, hatred or not.

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