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Rough_Idle t1_j7j4ju9 wrote

Reply to comment by silverfox762 in Lead Plates and Land Claims in North America and Europe: When did the practice begin of burying lead plates to establish ownership of land, and why did it die out, and was it ever used successfully in a court of law to establish ownership? by whyenn

Yeah, utility companies are pretty terrible about starting points and property corners. What's with that? I was doing title searches in a small town and by the time I was done, the county gave me a month of free deed copies in exchange for my legal descriptions. Because they were accurate compared to the railroad and electric company markers. For the the square mile around the town square. That next year the tax assessor's database was correct for the first time in a century

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banneryear1868 t1_j7ib7hk wrote

Reply to comment by impossiblefork in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

Oh yeah swords we're totally still used at this time, but technology was advancing and Aldolphus (badass) was one of the first to switch things up successfully. Apparently some of his tactics developed in the Thirty Years War were borrowed in to the 19th century.

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Dlatrex t1_j7i5pmw wrote

Reply to comment by DJTilapia in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

With just one picture to go from this particular example looks like a “crab hilted” styled side sword as were popular on Italian made swords in the late 16th-early 17th century.

example with a sail guard also

Not super common in Denmark, but in Latin countries these type of swords were certainly popular ~1620s.

Sideswords like this would have co-occurred with basic “medieval” style simple cross arming swords for a while into the 17th century.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7hjgia wrote

Reply to comment by UglyTitties in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

Yeah there's just different names for that union depending on the time period, Danish-Norwegian is modern, but there was always a "two kingdoms under one crown" view of it, "Twin Kingdom" was one of the names for it at the time.

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impossiblefork t1_j7hf7fz wrote

Reply to comment by banneryear1868 in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

For our (Swedish) armies swords were among the primary weapons even after this period, even into the 1700eds since they used shock tactics involving infantry charges after a short-range volley.

Gustavus Adolphus introduced some of this in the decade after this war.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7h4ha1 wrote

Reply to comment by DJTilapia in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

There was a lot of modernization on the battlefield at this point as well with cannons and other siege artillery, arquebusiers, pike and shot formations. Swords were starting to take on a more symbolic role as they were associated with "honorable" combat, I mean they were technically "used" until WW1 by some units and certain positions still carry swords, although now almost entirely symbolically.

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banneryear1868 t1_j7h327y wrote

Reply to comment by left_at_read in Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

Dano-Norwegian Alliance "won" this dispute. Basically Sweden wanted to avoid paying Denmark's tolls for use of it's trade routes, they laid claim to a Norwegian territory and started collecting taxes there. Denmark-Norway actually teamed up with Sweden (Gustavo Adolphus) a few years later in the Thirty Years War, before returning to their rivalry shortly after.

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DJTilapia t1_j7gwcdi wrote

Reply to Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War. A conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. by Apprehensive-Ad6212

“...shows an evolutionary leap from a medieval sword to more modern designs that would eventually dominate the 17th century battlefield” is a bit hyped. While it's hard to say with the corrosion, it looks like a pretty normal sidesword, and those were numerous in the 16^th century. I suppose it's less common to find a Danish sword from this period, though.

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