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Ah yes, the plaque pits it is. The place is bad for your teeth.

Yeah, i know the feeling 😭

Life may have many forms . We know it well .

It’s just disappointing in Korea’s case and rather ironic with the nationalism here. Living here feels like we haven’t come much further since

If it makes you feel better, Hungarian history is one long "how can i cut off my nose to spite your face" episode.

Seriously, the national sport of national government is how to shoot the nation in the foot.

I’m mostly just talking about how korean history is just how can we screw over the nation to put our family into power only for another family to do the same a few years later. Despite Joseph’s length, I would go to say that pre Joseon was much more successful. Koreans really don’t like it when you point out one of the reasons that japan walked in so easily in the late 1800s as well.

We’re all just pieces of the same body, flares of the same fire

Dammit I only clicked because I really wanted to know what the hell human “dog bones” were.

In terms of studying the Qing Dynasty - especially in terms of non-China territorial action, at what point should it be consider as actions of Manchu, vs action of Qing China?

All those moments, lost in time, like tears in rain...

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There are ways forensic anthropologists and osteologists can determine cause of death by studying other details of the skeleton. Even old ancient ones.

ie. If there’s an injury on the skull and also damaged bones in the arms and hands, one can determine that the person was assaulted and died. If there’s an injury on the skull and fractured spine but no signs of struggle it’s possible the person died falling off a horse. These are overly simplified examples — the experts can take a million things into account just by studying the bones and come to solid conclusions with evidence to back it up.

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1. I agree that Joseon history can be read as a sort of downward spiral - it gets worse in the 19th century
2. It was not necessarily as dark in the three kingdoms, Unified Silla and Goryeo period. I think it was the Mongol invasion in the 13th century that crucially influenced the fate of Korea and neighboring Japan. Goryeo (Korea) fiercely fought Mongols, relocating the whole population of the capital to an island, but got eventually devastated. Japan stayed intact. I often think that this is comparable to the fate of Persia and some part of the Islamic world in the Mongol invasion.
3. After 100 years of Mongol dominance, Korean aristocrats became completely conservative and fundamentalist (in Confucianism). A similar trend also happened in Ming China but it was more extreme in Korea. It was not that the first king of Joseon sealed the deal on Korea's future, it was the collective of the aristocrats who completely turned fundamentalist Confucianist. Many Joseon kings were personally stifled, and resisted the orthodoxy, especially in the early period. But the orthodoxy would become even more dominant

• A similar trend of ultra-conservative orthodoxy also happened in Vietnam though, so I don't think it's just the case of Korea. Spain is another example that "sealed the deal" on their country's future when it was caught in the religious craze and kicked out all the Protestants and Jews

Korean history is basically how can we screw over the nation further and further. Hell, the first king of Joseon basically sealed the deal on Korea’s future as a small “island” country just so he could be king and then was shorty replaced. Korea has one of the most unstable histories I’ve ever read about. Just constant back stabbing. A great analysis tho and great read.

I hadn't realized bog bones was a category in and of itself but looks like I was wrong lol

Hmm, I feel something is off here. I saw this exhibit and maybe I didn't read all the details, but from what I remember, it was made by an artist, not a scientist. From the presentation, it seemed to suggest that the path from DNA to appearance has quite a bit of variance. If it is really so random, why do identical twins not display the same sort of variance in appearance? Yes, of course, any outcome is possible, but if it's astronomically unlikely, what's the point of highlighting it? Maybe I'm missing something?

No mofo knows about any Indian empire

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Good question -- some Korean historians ask that question to themselves, I guess. I don't have an answer, but major peasant rebellions (yellow turban or taiping style) would happen in the 19th century

In the 17th century... right after the war... umm perhaps peasants were just way too starved and devastated to do anything. After the war with Japan, there was a major epidemic that further plagued the nation. Seeing dead people or even families on the street was common. Afaik, both French Revolution or Yellow Turban happened when the economy and communities were relatively healthier

Plus, there was little merchant class because of the suppression of trades. And aristocrats were very heavily controlled by the fundamentalist Confucian ideology to be loyal to the king, and they had substantial ideological control over peasants through provincial, village-level institutions.

After the war with Japan, in late Joseon, oppression on women would also exacerbate. So perhaps the village societies chose to enhance social control rather than revolt

Why didn’t the people get mad or revolt when the economy was in shambles and the aristocrats didn’t do anything? I would expect something like the French Revolution or the Yellow Turban Rebellion. This question is coming from the first part of Section 12.

What's a "Human bog", and how many of its bones did they discover?

That is an awesome book

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