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ritaPitaMeterMaid t1_j95ta5c wrote

For the lazy:

> The invention of the chokeslam is credited to Paul Heyman for use by the wrestler 911,[1] although it was already in use by AJPW wrestler Akira Taue since 1992 under the name nodowa otoshi ("choke drop/slam").[2] Furthermore, one of the earliest accounts of the move dates back to a 19th-century recounting that describes Abraham Lincoln (himself a wrestler in his youth) using a technique vaguely similar in description, but without any specific mention of the "slam" component.

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laszlo92 t1_j95sl9z wrote

Definitely true. If we look at how local cities were governed in the eastern part of the Roman Empire it was basically as democratic as you get in that time.

Organized in what was known as the Boulè, it was basically a democracy of the rich.

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Bentresh t1_j95seep wrote

Additionally, it is not uncommon for monarchies to contain democratic institutions at the local level. For ancient Near Eastern examples, see Andrea Seri’s Local Power in Old Babylonian Mesopotamia and Daniel Fleming’s Democracy's Ancient Ancestors: Mari and Early Collective Governance.

In any case, a geographic argument is rather dubious. It should be noted that early states in Greece like the Mycenaean kingdoms were in fact monarchies, and kingdoms developed in many regions without unifying rivers — the Canaanite city-states of the Levant, the kingdoms of ancient Cyprus like Idalion and Paphos, Elam and the other kingdoms of ancient Iran, the Anatolian city-states of the Early/Middle Bronze Age and the subsequent Hittite empire, etc., to say nothing of societies further afield like the Maya kingdoms of Mesoamerica.

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