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MistressofTechDeath t1_j98ec2z wrote

I went to HS in Wilmington, NC in the late 90’s and it was never mentioned. There was a sign on Market St heading into downtown that called the event a “race riot” (The sign has now been amended to “massacre”, I believe). The only race that rioted was the whites .

I’m glad to see all the research being brought to light recently. I read “Wilmington‘s Lie” by David Zucchino. It is very heavy, but the truth should be known.

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TheBatAmongUs t1_j98c40y wrote

I will go with Founders. While I have read HW Brands work before there was already a book on the exact topic and just because a work is older doesn't mean it's less of a piece. I was curious what Brands might add to something that is already out there for three decades.

Thank you. It's hard to find the appropriate place to ask this on Reddit.

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elmonoenano t1_j98ayaz wrote

This is a version of environmental determinism. It basically comes out of the Victorian "race science" with things like phrenology and it's bunk. It starts from a bad assumption and then works backwards. So, it starts by assuming Anglo Saxon protestant and Nordic peoples are the superior race and then tries to make up evidence to support it.

There was just as much democratic tradition in the Americas, Polynesia, Australia, and Africa, but b/c a decision was already made about those cultures the evidence was either ignored, or more often not even considered. Ideas of tribal communities with all power chiefs was assumed to be their system of governance and that was that.

It was mostly used as a justification of colonialism and imperialism. In the Americas it's also very closely tied to the justifications of genocide and land appropriation of the indigenous residents.

On top of that, it just doesn't make sense. Florida is also a peninsula. Korea is also a peninsula, south east Asia is basically peninsula after peninsula. There's mountains pretty much everywhere and the biggest mountains are in Asia. There's natural harbors along pretty much every coast and some places, like the Gulf of Mexico is basically one big harbor. The Americas were probably the most forested land in the world, and still are. No one is looking at Brazil for examples of democracy.

No respected historians believe it b/c it's so easy to find counterexamples.

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