This type of Thor’s hammer has never been found in the province of Halland before. So it’s one of a kind in Halland.

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https://www.history.com/topics/holidays/samhain

Confidentiality incorrect. In the 7th century that Catholic holiday was in May and was only moved to coincide with Samhain 200 years later. Or Samhain just happened to be celebrated on the exact day and have many of the same traditions?

The actual month of November in Irish is called "mí na Samhna" or the month of Samhain. It is certainly ancient and would be very difficult to separate Halloween from Samhain just because the name Halloween in English comes from a holiday the Catholic church moved to have the same date

No one in Sweden does either. They are automatically owned by the state and you need to hand them over to the local authorities as soon as possible to avoid legal troubles.

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What? No my comment is that halloween was based on a Roman celebration and Samhain. The Roman festival also incorporated pagan traditions like Samhain, but that’s not what I focussed on, I was talking about Halloween.

I’m not sure what 400 years you’re talking about. I think we might have crossed wires. I took your original post to mean that halloween was a Christian tradition and Christianity began 400 years before the first mention of Samhain, therefore how could it be based on Samhain. But now I think that’s not what you meant?

In America? Because it was in its swing far longer than a couple of hundred years in Scotland (and I'm sure Ireland, but I'm not Irish so don't know for sure).

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Is the comment that Samhain is a pagan tradition that somehow survived 400 years as pagan?

Halloween as we know it today generally seems to not have been part of early Christian celebrations, only really seem to be getting into swing the past couple hundred years.

Yes, that was my thinking. But doesn’t that lend further credence to my post and contradict what you said earlier? Or have I completely lost the plot? I have been up since the early hours with a poorly 2 year old so maybe I’m just not making any sense!

sorry, dont know what went wrong. ill try again but less fancy. https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween#:~:text=The%20tradition%20originated%20with%20the,of%20the%20traditions%20of%20Samhain.

and another incase that didnt work:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Halloween

im no expert, i was just curious by what you said so looked it up. im doing so, i assumed that what you said about the romans having halloween in 600ish was true, and so when i read about Samhain and it coming before that, i reckoned the romans must have been influenced by the celts rather than the other way around, since Samhain does sound awfully halloweeny, what with the dressing up to ward off/fool spirits and the portals to the spirit world and such, (im scottish and was taught the last part as a child, i have no idea if that idea extends to america and elsewhere) whereas the roman festivals around the same time sound far less halloweeny.

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Probably later and much more recent than the 9th century, at least in whatever guise we see it today. This goes for a lot of trying to back date modern traditions to things more than a thousand years ago.

There is kind of a period in the 19th century where many "folklorist" thought they could parse out pre-Christian traditions from their modern day practices and thus tease out over thousand year old beliefs and traditions, which is a bit dubious and as fraught with mistakes as it might sound.

Sorry, which festival are you talking about? Do you mean Samhain? Isn’t the reason we don’t have mention of it being celebrated earlier than the 9th century because we have very little written record of Gaelic traditions pre-9th century?

Additionally, I am no expert on early Christian traditions but was halloween part of early Christian traditions? Or did it come later?

Eh, I would be a little skeptical on celebration first mentioned in the 9th century as being influential on Christianity given that Christianity took hold in the 5th century.

Do you maybe have an other source? This one leads to a 404. The important thing here would be the question of area - did only the conquered Celts (now officially Roman citizens) incorporate their old holidays in the Roman calendar? Or did the Roman calendar in regions like Sicily change?

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I keep thinking they look more like the clapper of a bell than a hammer.

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