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mycatchynamegoeshere t1_ja4uanz wrote

Reply to comment by GSilky in Weekly History Questions Thread. by AutoModerator

Yes, I am aware, and perhaps my wording was wrong. I have just noticed that on other continents there are folks living far more closely to the way they lived before colonizers came along. I understand what happened in North America, just curious as to why it didn’t happen quite as extremely in, say, South America.

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Gloomy_Possession-69 t1_ja4u7dv wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree

You've got your timelines quite mixed!

The first evidence of the Sumerian religion is about 6500 years old. The first evidence of the old Norse religion is about 2500 years old. However...

From what I understand, you can trace the origins of Thor to the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) mythology, to the hammer-wielding lightning and thunder god Perkwunos, which also is about 6500 years old.

Despite this, it is currently widely believed that Sumeria and PIE did not mix mythologies, so the connection between their thunder gods is not there (at least according to our current understanding).

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siegfrad t1_ja4qc5f wrote

Reply to Treaty of Versailles being ‘too harsh’ by -Mothman_

You either have a treaty that is not punishing at all to avoid vengeance or a treaty that is so punishing to ensure the losers will never be able to go to war again. The problem with Versailles was that Germany was a rising nation with a strong industry and relatively large population. Treaty of Versailles did not significantly affect either. So they can still go to war and kill you except this time they will be extra motivated.

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Cetun t1_ja4ou08 wrote

Reply to comment by AudeDeficere in Treaty of Versailles being ‘too harsh’ by -Mothman_

The better choice would have been to prop up the Weimar Republic. The government that entered WWI was gone and was replaced by a military government, which was replaced my a democratic socialist government that sued for peace. The Allies had a partner in Germany, the government that controlled Germany simultaneously threw out the military government so Germany could sue for peace and fought off a communist insurrection. How did the Allies reward this new government? By crushing it under the weight of the treaty of Versailles and later one sided agreements. They should have been propping up the Weimar government, they were team players, they were against the communists, fascists, monarchists, and old guard military supporters, all people the Allies didn't want to see in power. I would go on to say the Allies should have been subsidizing Germany's economy in the late 20s and early 30s so that fascists and communist extremists didn't gain power. A blind man could see what would happen if you take the absolute best government you can get after you defeat an enemy and then punish them for it.

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