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Itsamesolairo t1_ja5tqpo wrote
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> who really started migrating into the region from the Levant ~2300 BCE
I think you're getting them mixed up with the Amorites here.
While calling anything "Akkadian" pre-Sargon is arguably problematic, we have texts from Mesopotamia in Old Akkadian dating as far back as the 25th century, and Sargon (who was native to Mesopotamia) founded the Akkadian Empire around 2334 BCE.
Furthermore, AFAIK, there's no indication that speakers of old Akkadian originated in the Levant. I'm fairly certain the dominant theory is that they were native to Mesopotamia, while the Amorites did immigrate to Mesopotamia from the Levant.
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peteroh9 t1_ja5sp0u wrote
Reply to comment by AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
It would make more sense for it to be Bruce.
peteroh9 t1_ja5sjjk wrote
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You need to explain that because actual writing absolutely originated in Mesopotamia.
skooma_casualty t1_ja5sg1e wrote
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And if not... then to hell with you!
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HermanCainsGhost t1_ja5qxjz wrote
Reply to comment by be0wulfe in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Because 60 has a LOT of factors that can go into it.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15... etc
It's the reason why there are 60 minutes in an hour (and ultimately why there are 60 seconds in a minute, though that's a later development). It's also ultimately why we have 24 hours in a day (they had 12 for daylight hours, which ALSO has a lot of factors, it was eventually doubled).
A lot of time keeping stuff is due to them
assassinshogun307 t1_ja5q6l5 wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
>the first to develop the turning wheel- which is a device which allowed them to mass-produce pottery
I misread this as mass-produce poetry and I spend half a minute trying to figure out how a turning wheel could make people come up with multiple poems lol
NO_SPACE_B4_COMMA t1_ja5pujd wrote
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Seven shadows cast. Seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lies death, and death alone!
TheGreatOneSea t1_ja5p2sz wrote
Reply to comment by Expert_Quarter9220 in Weekly History Questions Thread. by AutoModerator
Well, the first and most obvious question is whether or not you can read German, because most of what's been translated into English comes from foreign language newspapers that would rather avoid the issue of victory altogether.
Generally speaking though, one of the major problems for Germany was the question of what "victory" even meant: while the idea of defeat was "unthinkable," especially with the police looking over everyone's shoulder, Germany was a rather bizarre mixture of believing itself the victim in the war, and expecting to make material gains.
As such, depending on who you asked, ending the war without war reparations or territory losses could be a "victory," as could annexing most of Eastern Europe. Few would disagree with the former (at least openly,) but how many genuinely expected the latter before Russia's collapse is a much more open question.
After Russia's collapse, most people would have likely expected to keep the territory gained, but that made Germany's subsequent reversal all the more shocking, and presumably despairing, since the German government was clearly more afraid of ending up like the Tsar than admitting defeat by the end.
be0wulfe t1_ja5och7 wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Base 60!?
I gotta read up more on this... Why base 60?
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5o0n9 wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
History with Cy goes into some detail on cuneiform vs hieroglyphics
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5nv76 wrote
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Also another error is attributing writing to Mesopotamia first
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5nqqy wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Many scholars actually argue for simultaneous evolution of both Egypt and Mesopotamia and no Mesopotamia had contemporaries so they weren't the first at all to have a religion which is absolutely absurd to say.But there is evidence for a divergent evolution especially when it comes to writing between Mesopotamia and Egypt. I keep bringing up Egypt because it's the oldest contemporary civilization to Mesopotamia
psycholepzy t1_ja5mo3l wrote
Reply to comment by random2187 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Might it be related to "Judea"?
I'm barely a hobbyist, but I have fallen in love with the etymology of religious words, place names, and iconography. It would be wild to find connections between Hadad or Baal and an equivalent Sumerian/Akkadian diety.
False etymologies and debunkings notwithstanding, it's an area that really excites me.
Unicorny_as_funk t1_ja5mkry wrote
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Very interesting. Wish the article hadn’t ended so abruptly.
thatirishguy0 t1_ja5mjv7 wrote
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This is amazing. The fact yha5bwe are still finding out about their civilization and finding their remains.
AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_ja5lou3 wrote
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Is it Crom?
I mean, it should be.
random2187 t1_ja5khae wrote
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You’re right, sorry I didn’t mean to imply that IRVC = Indo European but I see that’s how it comes across in my comment
SolomonBlack t1_ja5k92q wrote
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Indus River isn’t known to be Indo-European though. So any connection to the Vedas would likely be syncretic too.
elmonoenano t1_ja5k5va wrote
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Various state historical societies video tape their events. You can look for their youtube channels. My local societies is here: https://www.youtube.com/@oregonhistory/videos
There's similar ones for groups focused on more defined areas, like Gilder Lehrman has a channel for US Civil War stuff. https://www.youtube.com/@gilderlehrman
Gilder Lehrman recently had an event at Yale specifically for teachers. I they had a big wig there too. I can't remember if it was Eric Foner or David Blight
Also, CSPAN's author talks are fun. Or you can just search for authors and books you like to find talks by those people. Lots of bookstores started putting up their author events during the pandemic.
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