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GSilky t1_ja5zuxa wrote
Reply to comment by Keith502 in Weekly History Questions Thread. by AutoModerator
Maybe. It's also possible the reverse is the case, as a major aspect of romantic love is regard for the partner. Can you refuse something to one your in love with? I don't mean to say that men's weakness lead to women's rights, but maybe a little bit of respect was created?
Devil-sAdvocate t1_ja5ztty wrote
Reply to comment by ManannanMacLir74 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Link a peer reviewed scientific written paper, anyone can make a random video.
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5ztbn wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
All of that is based on old dating and I don't know how it's evidence anymore than it is guessing.
Pademelon1 t1_ja5zqqu wrote
Reply to comment by ManannanMacLir74 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
The Indus Valley was also contemporaneous
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zpzk wrote
Reply to comment by Devil-sAdvocate in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
How is what?Are you going to be obtuse and refuse to watch the video?
Eduardjm t1_ja5zp8f wrote
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Crom laughs at your four winds!
Devil-sAdvocate t1_ja5zkr5 wrote
Reply to comment by ManannanMacLir74 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
I thought archaeological evidence shows cuneiform dates back to at least 3500 BCE while hieroglyphs date back to around 3100.
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zhx2 wrote
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As I've said above watch the video but to give you a bit of context the idea that cuneiform came first or influenced hieroglyphics isn't widely accepted among all scholarship like it was decades ago.The most likely scenario is that the two evolved independently as they're very different and even if cuneiform evolved first it definitely didn't influence hieroglyphics much at all.Even the kingship in Mesopotamia was very different from the Pharaoh's of Egypt for a few reasons. Lastly if I'm not mistaken Egyptian civilization sprang up fully formed first while Mesopotamia was still in warring city states
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Devil-sAdvocate t1_ja5zeys wrote
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How is that?
Devil-sAdvocate t1_ja5zdba wrote
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Likely finger counting. The base 60 system likely originated from ancient peoples using the digits on one hand to count.
With the left hand, the left thumb counts up to 3 knuckles on each finger for a total of 12. Then with the right hand, the right thumb counts each additional finger as +12. Five multiplied by 12 equals 60.
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Aus10Danger t1_ja5yot2 wrote
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Mushen mushen, relationship desu
tanksforlooking t1_ja5ynfw wrote
Reply to comment by ManannanMacLir74 in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Can you explain?
canwealljusthitabong t1_ja5xrw9 wrote
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of all the things to get hung up on..
Trash_Panda_Leaves t1_ja5weuf wrote
Reply to comment by Oak_Woman in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
Ooh if that's true that makes a lot of sense. I've never really seen any discourse about this so that's why I asked. Do you know if there was anywhere specific you may have found that information?
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random2187 t1_ja5vqum wrote
Reply to comment by psycholepzy in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
That’s a really cool idea but the connection would be really tenuous. Gudea was a single Sumerian king who ruled in Mesopotamia in the 22nd or 21st century and while Mesopotamia did have contact with the Levant for a long time, the name Judah which is the root of Judea is first attested in the Iron Age after the Bronze Age collapse, around the 7th or 8th century BCE. So different cultures and a long time span separating them
aphilsphan t1_ja5vnhk wrote
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The point is Germany had no room to squawk about Versailles given the punitive terms they laid on Russia.
Fanfics t1_ja5vesn wrote
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why is livescience.com calling this thunder god "mighty" lmao, did they do a study? How are they quantifying that? Is there another thunder god that isn't mighty that we might mix them up with?
vshawk2 t1_ja5ven6 wrote
Reply to ‘Mermaid mummy’ at Enjuin temple, Japan — a mythical creature supposedly caught in a fishing net circa 1741 — consists of paper, cloth, cotton, animal hair, fish bones, scales and other components by marketrent
These were common sideshow attractions in the 1800s:
I saw this one in Tombstone, AZ
Basically, you take a desiccated capuchin monkey carcass and sew a dried out carp's tail on it -- and you charge people $$$ to see it.
Oak_Woman t1_ja5ur6d wrote
Reply to comment by Trash_Panda_Leaves in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
I swear I've read somewhere that certain cultures didn't sow seeds before the first thunderstorm of the year. Or maybe it was from a gardening group I'm a part of? Either way, that might be your answer. Thunderstorms indicate warm air and a season change, meaning it's finally safe to plant.
darwinfish86 t1_ja5uohh wrote
Reply to comment by Trash_Panda_Leaves in 4,500-year-old Sumerian temple dedicated to mighty thunder god discovered in Iraq. by Rifletree
In Sumerian mythology Ningursu's father was the storm god Enlil, so that is likely the connection. That said many of these deities shifted names and roles over the two thousand years or so that they were actively worshipped, and often took on different meanings in different places at different times.
The gods had a lot of overlap in responsibilities; it was not at all like a Dungeons & Dragons pantheon where every deity had a set and specific set of duties and powers. Gods could be as broad and seemingly universal as Enlil (god of storms) or Inanna (goddess of love and war), or they could have very narrow associations, like Enbilulu, god of irrigation. Some gods were servants or family members of other gods, like Ninshubur, Inanna's personal servant/vizier.
Some gods lost their original identity and became syncretized with another deity, like Asaruludu, who was originally the city of Kuara's patron deity but later became merely one of the fifty names of Marduk, patron god of the city of Babylon.
The religion of Sumeria and Mesopotamia is fascinating and deep. I just got interested in it myself when I started building a D&D campaign set in the ancient bronze age. I went down that rabbit hole and still haven't crawled out of it.
Ancient polytheistic religions didn't really work the way movies, pop culture, video games, and fantasy has keyed us to understand them. For a really in-depth overview of how ancient polytheism worked I'd highly recommend A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry: Practical Polytheism, a blog by a professional historian.
ManannanMacLir74 t1_ja5zw6h wrote
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I'm not a scholar in these fields but I do try to keep up with the latest developments in this debate