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martinborgen t1_itp5p9o wrote
Reply to comment by Formendacil in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
So, yes, it would have been 'Äpplet'
ElMachoGrande t1_itp3vsj wrote
Reply to comment by DdPillar in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Yes, of course. My point was more about A vs Ä.
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Reply to comment by DdPillar in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Desktop version of /u/DdPillar's link: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globus_cruciger>
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DdPillar t1_itp1d54 wrote
Reply to comment by ElMachoGrande in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Literally, yes, although together with its sister ships (the sceptre and the crown), it is obviously a reference to riksäpplet, Globus Cruciger a Christian symbol of authority. Together they make up the Regalia of Sweden.
beach_boy91 t1_itp199r wrote
Reply to comment by Electric_Evil in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
In a swedish article i read yesterday, it's said that it lies in a military area, which are forbidden to dive in. They gotta have special authority to dive there and they said that maybe they'll take a look at it towards spring to 3d scan the entire thing but they didn't think they would raise the ship and just let it be. It has survived there since 1659 and is still mostly intact. It will be able to lie at the bottom for a lot longer without the need of raising it and requier constant maintaining
avdpos t1_itoytnj wrote
Reply to comment by motoxjake in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
I'm a swede, and I did not know it either
ElMachoGrande t1_itoy6xc wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Swedish guy here: It was named Äpplet, not Applet. Ä and A are two completely different letters. Applet is a programming concept, Äpplet means "The apple".
banestyrelsen t1_itowzac wrote
Reply to comment by Fofolito in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
I believe all four ships were ordered simultaneously but they started building Vasa first. Already during construction they thought it would be unstable so they made the other three ships wider.
IMALEFTY45 t1_itovko8 wrote
Reply to comment by Electric_Evil in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
They would need to build a bigger museum
Formendacil t1_itov8kg wrote
Reply to comment by MeatballDom in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
No, Ä has been used for longer than that
automatvapen t1_itos5wp wrote
Reply to comment by motoxjake in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
They actually made four in total with wasa as the first ship. Let's call it a failed "design concept"
MeatballDom OP t1_itorinu wrote
Reply to comment by lurkarrunt in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Surprised to not pick that up myself. Was expecting æblet but then told myself æ wouldn't be used in Swedish and never continued the thought to what should be used. But I guess I assumed the authors would have already done that work.
Edit: Would the umlaut have been used in the 17th century? Vowel shift perhaps?
Electric_Evil t1_itor1n9 wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
So can we raise this one and put it on display next to the Vasa?
unknown_ordinary t1_itoquj2 wrote
Reply to comment by zoinkability in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Everyone else is excited about our ancestors enjoying gadgets from our favorite company
Clio90808 t1_itoqoid wrote
Reply to comment by kojohn11 in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
I turned to the dark side eventually and got an MBA...worked in research on financial markets...I got to do some financial/economic history along the way. Studying history taught me so much: how to do research; how to analyze; how to create an argument and support/defend it; how to write a paper...I used all that in my career. Also if you work internationally, knowing their history can be a big plus.
For a successful career outside of history after majoring in it, it certainly helps to have graduate training in whatever non-history career path you choose. If you like to teach, then history may be a good path on its own. My problem was that I didn't enjoy teaching that much and you need to love it to make it through, to make history your life work.
lurkarrunt t1_itopkyn wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
As a Swedish speaker I found it a bit weird that Guardian wrote Applet and not the correct Äpplet (or The Apple if they wanted to translate)
motoxjake t1_itonwhh wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Very cool! I've been to the Vasa museum in Stockholm and its quite impressive! Never knew there was a sister ship that didnt sink on its maiden voyage.
Fofolito t1_itoisjy wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Cool.
From the article, after Vasa sank three ships were ordered from the same shipwright to similar designs. They were the Crown, Sceptre, and this one, Applet (Apple). Two of these ships served in war and this one was sunk on purpose, upon decommissioning, likely as a submerged spike-strip to foul unawares attackers.
zoinkability t1_itoikk4 wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Java developers are confused by this headline
Jestersage t1_ito0ljl wrote
Reply to comment by Bashstash01 in Joseon, the predecessor of modern Korea(s) - Part 3: Japan and Qing Invasions (early 17th century) by spinnybingle
Yes, I know about that. However, Manchu was its own nation, as with Ming China until Qing, where Manchu took over the Chinese government.
Bashstash01 t1_itnvrwy wrote
Reply to comment by Jestersage in Joseon, the predecessor of modern Korea(s) - Part 3: Japan and Qing Invasions (early 17th century) by spinnybingle
The Qing were also known as the Manchu dynasty, because they were led by Manchu.
TheRichTurner t1_itntrmi wrote
Reply to comment by jezreelite in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
Thank you. That was quick!
jezreelite t1_itnshir wrote
Reply to comment by TheRichTurner in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
It's probably has something to do with the fact that the title of Duke of Norfolk was revoked after Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk, was executed for treason in 1572.
The title would not be restored until 1660 when it was regranted to Thomas Howard, 5th Duke of Norfolk, a descendant of the fourth duke's younger son, Thomas Howard, 1st Earl of Suffolk.
TheRichTurner t1_itnp23z wrote
I found a map online, dated from 1583, which shows the area of Norfolk where I live (Guiltcross) as part of Suffolk. All maps from before and after this date have the area as part of S. Norfolk.
The map was an official document commissioned by Lord Burleigh on behalf of Elizabeth I.
I know that Elizabeth I and Mary Tudor both lived at different times in Kenninghall Place (shown on the map as "Keanygale") which was the seat of the Duke of Norfolk, and I wonder if that might be something to do with it.
Does anyone have an idea why a part of Norfolk would briefly become a part of Suffolk in the late 16th century?
buster_de_beer t1_itp6kdn wrote
Reply to comment by zoinkability in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Nah, applet definitely is a sunken ship. Makes perfect sense.