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zoinkability t1_itpo2y5 wrote
Reply to comment by Select-Owl-8322 in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Great point, the proper character is not hard to use
fiendishrabbit t1_itpnjg3 wrote
Reply to comment by rbajter in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Depends on the era, building material and size.
A well-built 74-gun ship-of-the-line built out of well-dried oak were on average in service for maybe 30-50 years. British second rates (90-gun ships) tended to be in service for 60-80 years unless they were wrecked.
On the opposite end we have ships like the Endymion class frigates, which served for about a decade. But these ships were built out of fir instead of oak (because of a shortage of oak and the need to complete them quickly)
Swedish ships tended to live a hard life though, and a very large amount of them were sunk or captured. The longest serving ship was Äran (Glory), with it's 90 years in Swedish service before sinking (due to fire).
fredagsfisk t1_itpn3dz wrote
Reply to comment by rbajter in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Hmm, sounds very low, so I don't think that's correct. I know that the cannons apparently had a much longer service life than the ships themselves tho, and that they'd be salvaged and reused when one sank.
For Swedish "regalskepp" (the largest ships of the navy during the 1600s):
Äpplet - 3 years, sold
Vasa - 0 years, sank instantly
Äpplet - 29 years, sunk on purpose (the one in the article)
Kronan - 43 years, sunk on purpose
Göta Ark - 16 years, scrapped
Scepter - 39 years, sunk on purpose
Draken - 21 years, stranded during battle
Viktoria - 28 years, sunk on purpose
Saturnus - 45 years, though was rebuilt and renamed Bohus after 25 years
Riksäpplet - 15 years, sank during storm
Svärdet - 13 years, sank in battle
Wrangel - 49 years, though was rebuilt after 25 years
Nyckeln - 14 years, sank by own crew during battle to avoid capture
Mars - 12 years, captured by Denmark
Jupiter - 45 years, sank (not sure why)
Venus - 39 years, though was rebuilt and renamed Finland after 18 years
Kronan (aka Stora Kronan) - 4 years, exploded and sank during battle
Solen - 25 years, sunk on purpose
Mercurius - 48 years, though was captured by the Dutch 5 years after it was launched
Please note that these dates are the time that passed from launch to sinking or decommissioning, and that not all of them had a service life that long.
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rbajter t1_itpkb5r wrote
Reply to comment by fredagsfisk in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
I heard that these old wooden ships usually serverd around 12 years before being replaced.
metaglot t1_itpjylv wrote
Reply to comment by MeatballDom in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Æblet is danish for 'the apple'.
rbajter t1_itpjwd2 wrote
Reply to comment by IMALEFTY45 in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
They already have a bigger boat. (dun dun)
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TheNaug t1_itpi9al wrote
Reply to comment by Fofolito in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
The -et suffix is the definitive form, like adding "the" to a word.
Äpplet = The Apple
ulyssesfiuza t1_itphlk0 wrote
Reply to comment by fredagsfisk in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
At the time it was a rotten Applet, or Äpplet. Various redditors point to the difference, none show the difference in spell.
drmalaxz t1_itpfxnj wrote
Reply to Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
A bit lax to not even check that the Vasa actually sunk August 10, 1628.
fredagsfisk t1_itpf7n9 wrote
Reply to comment by DeRuyter67 in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
It was sunk on purpose to block a passage for enemy ships, 29 years after it first set sail. It was already damaged and worn at the time, to the point where it was deemed too expensive for repairs to be worth it.
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bronhoms t1_itpbspb wrote
Reply to comment by maceilean in Thor’s hammer amulet discovered in Sweden - Arkeonews by GullyShotta
It would actually be amazing
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Select-Owl-8322 t1_itpauo9 wrote
Reply to comment by MeatballDom in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
>Edit: Would the umlaut have been used in the 17th century? Vowel shift perhaps?
"Ä" is actually not an "A" with an umlaut, it's its own separate letter in our alphabet. As is "Å" and "Ö".
And I believe they were used back in the 17th century, but I'm not a linguist so I'm not sure.
SerLaron t1_itpatj9 wrote
Reply to comment by xiaorobear in Human 'bog bones' discovered at Stone Age campsite in Germany by wishywashy9101
And Sahara means desert in Arabic
DeRuyter67 t1_itp9o3h wrote
Select-Owl-8322 t1_itp88rs wrote
Reply to comment by zoinkability in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
I actually think it's a little bit disrespectful to the Swedish language to not use the correct spelling, "Äpplet". I know that most non-Swedes wouldn't be able to pronounce it correctly, but they can at least spell it correctly in a headline!
Tidesticky t1_itp80em wrote
Reply to Archaeologists uncover Roman villa complex in Kent - HeritageDaily - Archaeology News by GullyShotta
I always think the people who work uncovering and interpreting stuff like this have the best jobs in the world.
AnaphoricReference t1_itp6zlb wrote
Reply to comment by Fofolito in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
When you scuttle a ship in the entrance of a harbour defensively, as a blockship, this is usually done to force those that enter the harbour to sail in closer to the cannons of a fortress.
OMGlookatthatrooster t1_itp6wx5 wrote
Reply to comment by beach_boy91 in Archaeologists have found the 17th-century warship Applet: Maritime experts believe wreck is sister-ship of Vasa, which sank off Stockholm in 1629 by MeatballDom
Would be cool if they made a museum around it, instead of the other way round.
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