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Discount_gentleman t1_jcl2cgi wrote
Reply to comment by Painting_Agency in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
Historically, getting the ram stuck was a serious problem. I have a vague memory of reading that proper tactics dictated back-rowing (i.e. tapping the breaks) just before impact, with the goal being more to deliver a shock that pops every joint in the target, rather than busting through and getting your ram deeply embedded in the target.
However, I've had a few beers since I read that, and so it might be worth checking with a better source.
Inner_Doctor5987 t1_jcl2bo8 wrote
Reply to comment by scotsgirl77 in 3D scan of the Tomb of Ramesses II (KV 7) and recent conservation work by shrimplypibbles20932
Do you know a book on Ramses II? I have recently been enamored by ancient Egypt, and I want to dive in.
Inner_Doctor5987 t1_jcl22ef wrote
Reply to 3D scan of the Tomb of Ramesses II (KV 7) and recent conservation work by shrimplypibbles20932
I just read Tutankamen's Trumpet, and I had no idea how much I loved Ancient Egypt.
I tried finding a book on Ramses II and I can't find anything. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'd love to find something.
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Reply to comment by RabidMortal in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
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Select_Emphasis t1_jckx6g3 wrote
Reply to comment by amont606 in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
I went to grad school with him! He's okay.
amont606 t1_jckuwdg wrote
Went to highschool with this guy! He is good dude!
seakingsoyuz t1_jckt1yn wrote
Reply to comment by kratos2025 in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
That probably depends on how skilled the ship’s helmsman is /s
Ramguy2014 t1_jcksbqg wrote
Reply to comment by Archmagnance1 in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
So, what strategy was employed with naval rams? Was it used as a boarding aid, or to destroy an enemy ship entirely? If it’s the former, it seems it would be better if it got stuck in the enemy ship, but the latter would require the attacker to be able to quickly detach so as not to get dragged down with it.
ImOnlyHereCauseGME t1_jckpbkw wrote
Reply to comment by NeighborhoodOk9039 in Bookclub and Sources Wednesday! by AutoModerator
Empire of the Summer Moon was a fantastic read. As someone who was born and raised in Texas it was amazing to me how relatively recent all of that was as well.
Thanks for the New Year resolution info, really interesting. I knew that the calendar (January 1) starts the day the new Roman Consoles were sworn in, but had no idea about New Year resolutions.
Archmagnance1 t1_jckl57b wrote
Reply to comment by lovebus in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
Its unlikely the ship would sink from this alone and if you hit at a shallow angle its not hard to imagine ships getting stuck and the more intact ship would aid in the buoyancy of the rammed ship.
Ships can float with water in them, and the water doesn't like to fill the ship when the pressure difference on either side of the hole is equal. This tends the happen when the water level reaches the top of the hole. If the weight of that isn't enough to overcome the boyancy of said ship / ships in tandem then it stops sinking.
It was still very hard to sink ships in the age of sail with cannons, even when within boarding distance and cannons were angled to shoot down through the bottom of the opposing ship.
silverfox762 t1_jckk8ca wrote
Reply to comment by Phormitago in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
I can see it now-
"The front fell off".
Archmagnance1 t1_jckk4il wrote
Reply to comment by lovebus in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
How they attached it is a bit question.
Was it meant to stay attached after ramming? Was it a one time use and acceptable to come off after impact? Was it meant to stay on but acceptable if it broke off?
Phormitago t1_jckhy8k wrote
Reply to comment by lovebus in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
Well, as for the obvious first one: "how do we attach this to the bow of a ship so that it doesnt fall off when a wave hits it?"
Painting_Agency t1_jckgt9p wrote
Reply to comment by RabidMortal in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
Probably attached with large nails. They don't look like they'd get "stuck" - no barbs or protrusions. The other hull would cave in and be too fragmented to bind the ramming vessel.
wittyDolphin t1_jck5jxx wrote
Reply to 3D scan of the Tomb of Ramesses II (KV 7) and recent conservation work by shrimplypibbles20932
This right here is the future of VR. VR tourism will be a billion dollar industry for „environmental friendly“ visits to historic places, without destroying anything (as visitors tend to do). When the cost of access gets low enough, we‘re gonna have thousands of real world virtual experiences, and I‘m looking forward to that very much.
kratos2025 OP t1_jck4sh6 wrote
https://stephendecasien.com/ancient-naval-ram-casting-project/
Looks like he built the front of a warship!
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Reply to comment by RabidMortal in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
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Immediate-Win-4928 t1_jck48cl wrote
Reply to comment by lovebus in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
The specific design of the wooden parts obviously
lovebus t1_jck3x3z wrote
Reply to comment by MeatballDom in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
What unexplained questions? It seems pretty self explanatory to me
lovebus t1_jck3q1v wrote
Reply to comment by RabidMortal in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
Well ideally the other ship would sink and the wood would just break
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RabidMortal t1_jck1nnw wrote
How exactly were these attached to the ships? If the ram got stuck in the target ship, was there any way to detach the ram??
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phillipgoodrich t1_jcjvr6v wrote
Reply to comment by Hour-Weather-5354 in Weekly History Questions Thread. by AutoModerator
Some things never change historically/culturally. A "city" or a "nation" can exist where an administration has the ability to provide services in exchange for fealty. The chief service first sought by a population tends to be common defense, which allows everyone to live their quotidien lives in peace. And the more ready the natural defense, the more likely a nation can be created and preserved.
The best and most obvious example of this throughout history is of course islands. The vast majority of islands today are the homes of a single nation (yes, there are notable exceptions, such as Haiti/Dominican Republic ("Hispaniola") and Cyprus). Islands have an often formidable natural boundary which makes defense a reasonably easy task. Being situated between large rivers, or mountain ranges is another example.
Beyond the role of defense, internal services such as health, education, housing, commerce, etc., tend to be facilitated when a nation shares a common climate, via longitude, elevation, proximity, etc., so here again geography can play a major role. A nation like Chile is a great example of the difficulties faced in adminstration of a nation situated in a relatively finite space with spectacular variants in geography. Thus the geographic features within a nation are counter-productive to nation building, and problems with administration ensue. A classic recent example is the Soviet Union, for which administration ultimately produced bankruptcy. Likewise, we can witness within several hundred years the difficulties of administration of larger nations within Europe during the past 1500 years, such as France and Germany, whose mutual border remains somewhat murky, while internal geographic features tend to make provision of services far more expensive than in a smaller nation such as Luxembourg or Belgium.
Painting_Agency t1_jcl4beb wrote
Reply to comment by Discount_gentleman in Grad Student Explores Ancient Warfare With Naval Ram Project by kratos2025
I'm sure there was a whole technique to it, and I believe you beers or no.