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Ok-disaster2022 t1_jczpv1s wrote
Reply to comment by half3clipse in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
Also the priests often got to eat the sacrifices if there was edible elements.
Such-Armadillo8047 t1_jczo5ck wrote
Reply to The Ides of March: an insight into the history, significance and relevance of the infamous day by longshot24fps
According to Bruce Bueno de Mesquita in The Dictator's Handbook, Caesar's murder was (obviously politically motivated) due to him helping the people at the expense of many of his backers or Rome's most influential people. Caesar helped the poor citizens, such as by providing land grants to former soldiers, getting rid of tax farming, and relieving the people's debt burden by 25%. This came at the expense of Rome's prominent citizens, such as those who were owed money or were large landowners (i.e. tax farmers or wanted to buy more land). These people were well-represented in the Roman Senate and killed him.
divaythfyrscock t1_jcznzya wrote
Reply to comment by Probably_Not_Evil in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
I mean, Islamic animal sacrifice (a continuation of pre-Islamic practice) ends up as community BBQ so it isn’t really a stretch
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Cult, which shares an origin with culture and cultivate, comes from the Latin cultus, a noun with meanings ranging from "tilling, cultivation" to "training or education" to "adoration."
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Accomplished_Pie9653 t1_jczgbaw wrote
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Did Caesar write about the extent to which he murdered people in Gaul and surrounding regions of Britan and Germania? I have been doing lots of research into new archeological perspectives on the wars and while it is more than obvious that the Romans slaughtered and killed huge chunks of the population, it is not clear whether Caesar explicitly wrote about these actions. On one hand, they are incredibly gruesome and something that was maybe best kept under the rug, but contextually, wouldn't it have been great propaganda in his conquest of Gaul? At the time atrocities done during times of war were seen as patriotic acts and I know he mentions his total tally of murdered individuals towards the end of his commentaries (a blatantly inflated number)
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StekenDeluxe t1_jczfoeo wrote
Reply to comment by XAos13 in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Earlier, you wrote the following:
> the priest makes sure the knife is as clean as possible. The blood drains completely etc. Anything else would be an insult to God.
Are you saying that the insult would be to include any of the sacrificial animal's blood as part of the offering? Or that the insult would be to include only a part but not all of the sacrificial animal's blood?
Also, you mentioned an "insult to God," but you still haven't specified which "God" this would be. It's all terribly unclear.
> The parts reserved for the gods are the parts humans don't eat.
Which parts are you talking about? The blood? If so, that makes no sense at all. Gods and men alike could consume blood - it was considered perfectly fine food. Blood was famously a main ingredient in the "black soup" of the Spartans. Surely they weren't alone in this. Folks back then could ill afford to discard any part of a slaughtered animal.
EDIT: I don't mind the downvotes, at all, but would much prefer counter-arguments of some kind. Anyone?
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XAos13 t1_jcze64w wrote
Reply to comment by StekenDeluxe in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
>blood ... given to the gods to drink. pour the blood of a ram ... into a pit
Requires the blood to be drained. You just cited two examples of what I meant. The parts reserved for the gods are the parts humans don't eat.
zedriccoil t1_jcze3jn wrote
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That's a good read, thanks for the link
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ExileZerik t1_jczbd93 wrote
Reply to comment by Probably_Not_Evil in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
Evidence of ritualized feasting comes up quite a bit so yes lol
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StekenDeluxe t1_jcza377 wrote
Reply to comment by XAos13 in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
Sorry, which specific religions are you talking about?
FWIW, it may be worth noting that you can find plenty of sacrificial traditions wherein the blood is commonly included as part of the offering. The Hittites used to pour blood into sacrificial pits. At least in the Luwian-Hurrian sacrificial tradition as attested from Kizzuwatna, the blood of the sacrificial animals was specifically given to the gods to drink. In the Odyssey, Odysseus is similarly said to pour the blood of a ram and a ewe into a pit in the ground, presumably as offerings to chthonic deities, in order to consult the dead. And so on and so forth.
Ok-disaster2022 t1_jczqccu wrote
Reply to comment by StekenDeluxe in Saudi Arabia stone ruins were pilgrimage sites, where an ancient cult gathered to sacrifice animals about 7,000 years ago by marketrent
So it doesn't take much practice or experience to find leaving blood in the body, especially when cooked is pretty unpleasant. Draining the blood is common pretty much world wide for meat, as is letting it rest to have the rigor mortis dissipate.
Ironically though, depending on society, butchers may be considered a profession for the lowest levels in society. I believe in Japan's social stru ture for example the butchers and leatherworkers were lowest level.