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Taylo t1_jdv6q55 wrote
Reply to comment by BasicLuxury in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Wait, what? I don't think this is true, rum was being made in the Caribbean in the mid 1600's, but whisky was being made in Scotland in the late 1400's/early 1500's. Do you have a source for this?
McWeaksauce91 t1_jdv6gtb wrote
Reply to comment by DrWilhelm in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
They actually tried to film on the bridge! There’s a fun piece of trivia where the director(?) was frustrated how difficult it was to use the bridge. The historian on scene(?) said something to the effect of: “the English thought the same”
Edit: from IMDB, “When asked by a local why the Battle of Stirling Bridge was filmed on an open plain, Gibson answered that "the bridge got in the way." "Aye," the local answered. "That's what the English found."
Knows_all_secrets t1_jdv660z wrote
Reply to comment by Tap_Z_or_R_Twice in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Just like it would be slightly historical if there was a film about George Washington wearing a modern day business suit and a native war bonnet sneaking his forces across the Delaware Bridge in the night.
yarrpirates t1_jdv5je1 wrote
Reply to comment by vinicelii in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
He carried a huge wooden club around, and regularly had disabled people tortured to death in the Colosseum! Man was crazy as a bag of arsehair.
saudadeusurper t1_jdv3bp0 wrote
Reply to comment by Harrintino in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Yeah, but I think Braveheart is notorious and uniquely inaccurate for what almost amounts to a biopic.
Tap_Z_or_R_Twice t1_jdv2xpm wrote
Reply to comment by daviator88 in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Well there definitely was someone named William Wallace before so it's slightly historical.
RabidMortal t1_jdv2jpk wrote
Reply to comment by atlantis_airlines in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
I was confused too. But this clarifies the significance
>He said that because the tartan contains several colours, with multiple stripes, it corresponds to what would be considered a true tartan
So the earliest "true tartan"
As a group, "tartans" (checkered woven wool) ARE much older, with the oldest tartan associated with Scotland being the Falkirk Tartan dating to the 3rd century.
However, when most people imagine a Scottish tartan, they are envisioning the more colorful plaid patterns of the so-called "true tartan" that specifically requires the use of dyed wools
Future_Average t1_jdv2h8l wrote
Bluthunderbot t1_jdv0dmw wrote
Reply to comment by Bodark43 in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Early distortion use, nice!
Darth_Scotsman t1_jduyz61 wrote
Reply to comment by Blabulus in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Tartan was used by the Unionists in the central belt to Scottify themselves and try and bring the Highlanders onside after the Act of Union. Sir Walter Scott promoted tartan and Highlanders as being Scottish culture when 50-100 years previous if you were caught wearing tartan you would probably have been lashed and been seen as thief or worse.
Nixeris t1_jduytle wrote
Reply to comment by atlantis_airlines in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Tartans weren't associated with specific clans until the 1800s. They were just basic cloths that sometimes had an interesting weave. Early tartans often didn't even have a color pattern to them.
"Plaids" just means blanket, and describes an old garment style where you drape the blanket of cloth across the body (now often called a "great kilt"). Even those didn't often have any special color variations, just a very workmanlike clothing style.
IslandDoggo t1_jduyou5 wrote
Reply to Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
I'm a Canadian who's lineage traces back to Rob Roy and the MacGregors. This is crazy and all yalls comments are hysterical.
daviator88 t1_jduybp0 wrote
Reply to comment by TiberiusClackus in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
It's a great movie, just not historical at all whatsoever
marketrent OP t1_jduy9dd wrote
Reply to 19th century impressionistic paintings by Turner and Monet depict realism of air pollution, that increased to unprecedented levels during the Industrial Revolution by marketrent
Excerpt from the linked summary^1 about a paper^2 in PNAS:
>The study conducted by a team of scientists from the United States and Europe shows that artists such as Turner and Monet documented changes in atmospheric pollution in London and Paris through their paintings, providing a unique window into historical trends in air quality.
>The article demonstrates that the progression toward hazier contours and whiter color palettes in Turner and Monet’s paintings and other artists is consistent with the optical changes expected from higher atmospheric aerosol concentrations.
>Monet and Turner’s stylistic changes from more figurative to impressionistic suggested that their works could capture elements of the atmospheric environmental transformation during the Industrial Revolution.
>The study used a mixed-effects model to analyze the paintings, which allowed the researchers to account for both temporal and environmental trends.
>The model showed a significant dependence on emissions of sulfur dioxide – SO2 emissions – indicating that atmospheric pollution contributed to depicting the contrast in Turner and Monet’s paintings.
>The researchers note that while there are limitations to using paintings as a proxy for historical air quality, the evidence provided is complementary to instrumental measurements.
^1 Unfolding Impressionism: how Turner and Monet documented pollution. Josefina Cordera for United Academics Magazine, 16 Mar. 2023, https://www.ua-magazine.com/2023/03/16/unfolding-impressionism-how-turner-and-monet-documented-pollution/
^2 Albright, A. L., & Huybers, P. (2023). Paintings by Turner and Monet depict trends in 19th-century air pollution. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 120(6). https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2219118120
vinicelii t1_jduy6ij wrote
Reply to comment by Harrintino in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
One of my favorite things about Gladiator (looking past how the history is entirely bs of course) is that they actually toned DOWN how crazy Commodus probably was irl. The man thought he was a reincarnation of Hercules and regularly took up arms in the Colosseum instead of doing imperial duties.
He didn't kill his dad though.
NotDiCaprio t1_jduy4df wrote
Who counted 2000 sheep without falling asleep?
That's mind-blowingly impressive.
BasicLuxury t1_jduxtg5 wrote
Reply to comment by atlantis_airlines in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Caribbean rum has a longer history than Scotch whiskey.
Harrintino t1_jduvyti wrote
Reply to comment by Dlo-Nainamsat in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Same. Movies are for enjoyment and fun. I didn't watch gladiator to touch up on my Roman history.
brycebgood t1_jduvvjc wrote
Reply to comment by atlantis_airlines in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
I actually thought they were younger. They're basically a tourist item.
[deleted] t1_jduu2ez wrote
Reply to comment by Orion14159 in Over 2,000 Mummified Sheep Heads Unearthed In Egypt Temple by cargo_run_rust
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TiberiusClackus t1_jduty3n wrote
Reply to comment by beadebaser in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak
Yeah but if it starred Mel Gibson in his prime I’d probably still watch it and love it
5orangelemons t1_jdv7lku wrote
Reply to Over 2,000 Mummified Sheep Heads Unearthed In Egypt Temple by cargo_run_rust
We found a 4,000 year old, 16 foot thick walled temple. We found papyrus in it. Here's a picture of sheep heads? Nothing has been translated, I guess? I'd love to learn as much context as possible.