Recent comments in /f/history

Quavinir t1_iu1mte7 wrote

Reply to comment by phil_style in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta

I took some time to look it up, and it seems that there are some coins found at the sight that were minted LATER (Have no clue why it claims they're minted in 29 AD whatsoever) that appear to be hundreds (maybe a thousand) years after the ministry of Jesus. Though it is identified as Jesus Christ with inscriptions in Greek naming the figure specifically.

Bizarrely enough, the only mention of this I could find was on a stock photo-site, that claims that the image and caption came from Reuters, though I have yet to find a reuters story on the matter. https://www.alamy.com/a-rare-thousand-year-old-jesus-coin-on-display-at-the-hebrew-university-of-jerusalem-july-7-the-coins-which-were-discovered-during-an-archaeological-dig-near-the-sea-of-galilee-bears-the-likeness-of-jesus-and-has-greek-inscriptions-praising-him-the-coins-were-unearthed-in-october-in-archaeological-excavations-at-the-site-of-ancient-tiberias-in-northern-israel-but-only-during-a-cleaning-of-the-find-last-month-did-archaeologists-discover-the-image-of-jesus-on-58-of-the-82-coins-some-coins-also-bore-greek-inscriptions-such-as-jesus-the-messiah-the-king-of-kings-and-jesus-the-messiah-image382017674.html

63

Fun_Story2003 t1_iu1dq9h wrote

Reply to comment by toaster404 in Fall of the East India Company by Vailhem

>Yet somehow people from this subcontinent still get along with the British

anecdote but as a 20 something Indian,

nation view has been of increasing wealth. This wasn't the case pre 90s before borders were opened up for privatisation. So plunder of British times although witnessed directly through school trips to jallian wala bagh etc did feel horrifying, it's day to day effects "felt" mitigated & reversed already (far from the truth, no one knows where we'd be but hypotheticals). Besides, there's neighbours like Pak/China to actively hate in the present whom we have witnessed perform terror in our lifetime.

Parent's case is more pronounced, the deep rooted hatred is visible in conversation also with sadness & anger towards some of India's 1900s leaders who didn't optimize for country's well being over their short term pockets, agendas etc. They've gone through tougher times still reeling from aftereffects

5

toaster404 t1_iu157ks wrote

Reply to Fall of the East India Company by Vailhem

I first became acquainted with the EIC through the book "Indian Ocean Rovers" [see, e.g., https://www.ebay.com/itm/265792871787], belonging first to my grandfather and then my mother. As a rather precocious and curious autistic child, I spent hours reading through the exploits of the EIC ships and the pirates who pursued, and sometimes took, the EIC merchant ships. Days of cat and mouse, the long rakish hulls with sleek lateen sails getting daily closer. Trying to dodge them at night. The fearsome battles when the combatants finally closed.

It was only later that I started to understand that the Company was evil in design, evil in ends, evil in execution. That British India was effectively a slave state. The adventures and misadventures of the merchant ships were driven by astute and cunning manipulation of the people of an entire subcontinent with the goals of power and riches.

I plunged into other books. Stories of Cawnpore Well and the Black Hole of Calcutta - always written from the British perspective. Seemed to me, even as a child, that the violence and treachery began with the invaders.

Years later, the Smithsonian had an exhibit of early photography of India, with the British figuring extensively in the images, especially those in the military. The complete, absolute, insufferable arrogance and entitlement was clear, lording over all the heathens around them.

Yet somehow people from this subcontinent still get along with the British, possibly better than the other way around.

The EIC / British story of India deeply influenced me as a child, a child of almost pure Celtic origins, Welsh, English, and Irish, but not of the landed privileged class, rather of the oppressed working class. The vision presented in books and by my experience of the primary class divide showed me inequality, exploitation, and evil very early in my life, an older version of the world gone crazy in pursuit of power, while the soft green world of my summers was punctuated by the scars of Hilter's pursuit of land, power, and domination.

So much additional context and detail in the simple article referenced. Brought back so many memories of early reading, and put them in a broader context. Enjoyed very much.

9