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Bentresh t1_iu23le6 wrote
Reply to comment by StrategicBean in Enheduanna: The World's First Named Author by SirBettington
They did take some protectionist measures with regard to long distance trade. I'll quote a couple of relevant sections of Klaas Veenhof's Mesopotamia: The Old Assyrian Period.
>The quantitative relation between the expensive "Akkadian textiles", imported from the south, and the institutional or domestic textile production in Assur... is still not clear, but the importance of the textile trade for Assur is underlined by evidence for clearly protectionist measures of the City Assembly, contained in the letters VS 26, 9 and AKT 3, 73:9ff., studied in Veenhof 2003d, 89ff. The first forbids trade in specific types of Anatolian textiles and the second probably obliges traders to buy more textiles, by limiting the quantity of tin that could be bought with the silver arriving from Assur.
p. 83
>But import of textiles and presumably copper from the south apparently did not prevent considering "Akkadians'' as rivals in the trade. This is implied by the just mentioned prohibition of selling gold to them and confirmed by a surprising stipulation in the draft of a treaty with a ruler in southern Anatolia, probably somewhere in the area of the great western bend of the Euphrates, near Hahhum. He has to promise that he will extradite Akkadians, presumably Babylonian traders who travelled north via the Euphrates and came to his country, to be killed by the Assyrians. But alongside such protectionism also good relations were necessary with cities and lands whose cooperation was essential for the trade and the safety of the caravans.
p. 98
DaddyCatALSO t1_iu23kxt wrote
Reply to comment by MrTheta in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
Right it's a millenium newer
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StrategicBean t1_iu1x5jl wrote
Reply to comment by Rayirth in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
It is of Jesus but isn't from 29 AD more like 1029 AD
"This coin is one of a series of coins that were issued in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) in celebration of the First Millennium of Jesus' birth."
Via Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs archived at Internet Archive Way back Machine and quoted more fully in another comment in this thread or at this linked text
Akkismat t1_iu1wqky wrote
Reply to comment by bw1985 in Fall of the East India Company by Vailhem
I was busy with an answer to the other deleted post. But have the game also, as a person of Indian descent. It is, for me personally, not about glorifying colonial past and its dark pages. Rather I try to use this game to teach and learn about history and the (very abstract) mechanics, be it economic, social or militarily. Thats why I like most Pax games, as it gives IMO a honest view of history.There are games that perhaps downgrade colonial past Puerto Rico, Colonialism , but I always give a honest view of the history concerned when playing with my kids, family or friends.
TerminalHighGuard t1_iu1w60d wrote
Reply to comment by Quavinir in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
That’s still pretty rad. Love me a good Byzantine Follis
StrategicBean t1_iu1vil1 wrote
Reply to comment by Quavinir in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
Found info! (Full links for verification at bottom)
>Coin of Jesus found in Ancient Tiberias Excavation
>29 Nov 2004
>A rare Jesus coin was found by volunteers digging at the site of Ancient Tiberias.
>(Communicated by Prof. Yizhar Hirschfeld, director of the archeological excavation)
>An unusual and important find was discovered at the archaeological excavation of Ancient Tiberias being carried out at a site on the shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel.
>To their great surprise, a group of young people who were participating in the dig discovered a rare coin. On the front of the coin can be seen a somewhat blurred image of Jesus, while on the back, the words in Greek "Jesus the Messiah King of Kings" are engraved very clearly. This coin is one of a series of coins that were issued in Constantinople (present day Istanbul) in celebration of the First Millennium of Jesus' birth.
>It is not uncommon to find this coin in neighboring countries of Israel, such as Turkey, but this is the first time that it has ever been discovered at an Israeli archaeological site.
>Prof. Yizhar Hirschfeld, Director of this excavation, which is sponsored by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Brown University, in association with the City of Tiberias and the Israel Antiquities Authority, explains that this coin was brought to Tiberias by Christian pilgrims. Tiberias and the other sites around the Sea of Galilee were the desired destination of Christian pilgrims during the time of Muslim rule in Israel from the 7th to 11th centuries CE.
>The Ancient Tiberias Excavation receives financial support from the Avihai Fund of Jerusalem whose aim is the deepening of knowledge of history on the part of the youth participating in the dig and the residents of Tiberias and its environs.
>Mr. Zohar Oved, Mayor of Tiberias, who stands behind the efforts of this excavation, has stated that the finding of the Jesus coin on the shores of the Sea of Galilee will be a drawing point for tourists from all over the world.
Source: I think I found a pretty decent source for the info on this coin
I found a bit about it on the Jewish Virtual Library websiteJewish Virtual Library website article from November 2004 which referenced info obtained from a piece about it on the Government of Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs website but the link was now dead so I found the archived version of the page Internet Archive Way back Machine
EDIT: spacing & line breaks for legibility
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Osxachre t1_iu1uajv wrote
The birth city of Mary Magdalene?
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StrategicBean t1_iu1tgxf wrote
Reply to comment by phil_style in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
The way the article refers to the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem as the "Great Temple" & then "Second Temple" leads me to think the article may be an amalgamation of various other articles on the topic lazily copy/pasta together so it mostly makes sense but is somewhat incoherent
Marlowe12 t1_iu1rh3o wrote
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The Isles by Norman Davies
Signiference t1_iu1r68u wrote
Reply to comment by bw1985 in Fall of the East India Company by Vailhem
Played it twice over the last week, first time was company failure in round 4 events in India, game two we lasted all 5 rounds. Lots of fun!
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challenger4884 t1_iu1pjny wrote
I visited there in early 2019. The "retreat center" is a hotel with a large meeting hall, built over part of the ruins. Neat place.
SubterraneanSmoothie t1_iu1p7km wrote
Wow that's so cool! Theoretically where Mary Magdalene is from!
robocalypse t1_iu1oqd0 wrote
Reply to comment by phil_style in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
That would make it the earliest known depiction or mention of Jesus. Seems like they would have led with that, if it were true.
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toaster404 t1_iu1oeym wrote
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Thank you for your insights. Always the what might have been!
I gradually awakened as an elementary level student to wonderment that Britain assumed an absolute right to take over the world as almost vassals, to settle foreign lands with their own people, to plunder.
It started so long ago that I can't envision a path without that British imprint. Here I am, in the United States, a country settled through the pushing aside and extermination of peoples already here. What might they have become?
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NoFact666 t1_iu1mxyz wrote
Amazing, would love more details/photos on this
LordOverThis t1_iu1mx8m wrote
Reply to comment by phil_style in Ancient City of Magdala Unearthed Near Tiberias, Israel by GullyShotta
Someone will correct me if I’m mistaken, but as I understand it, this kind of dramatic overselling of an archaeological find with significant leaps of logic is extremely common for “finds” in Israel.
Like “we found a pottery shard, therefore Joshua and the Battle of Jericho!” (an example I made up) kind of fluffery goes on a lot.
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