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Nakedsharks t1_iu9gb28 wrote

I've read quite a bit about the JFK assassination. Are there any similarly infamous European assassinations that I might find interesting? I don't mean one of the numerous Roman assassinations or something like that. I mean someone who was assassinated within the last 150 years or so. If there are conspiracy theories or controversy surrounding the event, even better.

Also, someone besides Franz Ferdinand, since that's already pretty well known.

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sticklebat t1_iu9fxld wrote

I’ve seen the full image. I think you’re underestimating the precision that can be accomplished by a talented artisan, even by hand, without fancy tools.

It would be well within the means of a skilled craftsman to make a sufficiently precisely patterned stamp or press to accomplish what we see in that image, especially given how thin that gold is (the article even says such artifacts are rare to find, since they “tear like paper”). All you need to make a perfect circle is a stick and string, or even just two sticks tied together. Scoring and then smoothing/polishing precise concentric circles into a pattern made of wood or stone wouldn’t be hard for a craftsman with metal tools, and if the stamp is precise, it will stamp a precise pattern into something so easily malleable.

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ycpa68 t1_iu9cun7 wrote

I feel like you answered your question to an extent. It's important to remember, though, that Lee was turned into an almost legendary figure in the south following the war. Longstreet was seen as a villain, supporting Republicans and working with "the enemy". So while Lee may have even defended him in private (I have no evidence he did, this is purely to make a point) those who wrote the histories of the two had motive to not acknowledge it.

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metaldesign32 t1_iu99kaa wrote

I agree it looks stamped but look very closely at the uniformity of the rings. It wasn’t just hand chased into the metal. I also agree a tool was used to stamp it. But I’d say the tool end was spun and scored to make them concentric and evenly spaced. That’s why I suggested a lathe or some sort of spinning process. If you haven’t already, download the full images. They are quite sharp and you’ll see what I mean about the precision.

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Bashstash01 t1_iu960wv wrote

Looking into some Neanderthal culture, it is debated over how much culture they had. Art and other things from them were scarce compared to our cave paintings and jewelry. Some believed they lacked the mental ability to make these and that they copied humans, though the scarcity may have had other factors.

https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/homo-neanderthalensis/

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