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MerelyMortalModeling t1_iunbd7k wrote

Saw The Jacobin and hoped it was a post in /bad history.

I get having to drive engagement for a book but except for the staff at the Jacobin, this is new news to exactly no one. It was hashed out extensively back in the 1950s in news and print. Books have been written and "new" stories have popped up regularly in the decades since.

While I am looking forward to giving the book a read the article is kinda crap. Many small contextual issues and I feel that the author, David De Jong is almost criminally misrepresenting not only the American position on the trials but also the European position.

1st of all the "capitalism on trial argument" was essentially a sound bit. Politicians had little say on the actual docket. In several cases, the prosecution did not feel it had the evidence it needed. In others, the jurists argued the court had no legal standing.

2cd acting like the US somehow brushed aside UK and French opinions is frankly insulting. Both the United Kingdom and France sent world-class jurists, judges, and staff to the trials, and men like Auguste Champetier de Ribes could not have cared less about American political sensibilities. And that leaves the Soviets. Love them or hate them they immediately from 0 to OFF WITH THEIR HEADS* in every case brought to trial.

3rd the limited cases of industrialists being prosecuted were all brought to court by the Americans. Not the Allies but the American government brought Krupp, Flick, and IG Farben to trial, and pretty much everyone in Europe shit on them for it.

Most of the charges were dropped due to lack of standing and evidence or should I say lack of admissible evidence. The major charge that stuck was international plunder followed by slave labor and that's not a coincidence, those are the charges supported to the greatest degree by the European powers.

And then after the war, again in well described and greatly discussed fashion most of the criminals saw their punishments commuted, charges dropped and in general got to walk. None of this is new, non of it was secret and in fact much, if not most of it was publicity available info until relatively recently when European powers started "protecting privacy" by eliminating access to much of the history here.

  • This is hyperbole, the Soviet judges preferred a single shot through the crown down into the base of the skull which left the head quite attached to the neck.
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Auto_Fac t1_iuk6np6 wrote

It does sound quite similar, though Cranachan seems to often have berries with it.

Fuarag also has a divination history - kinda - as things like a coin, wedding ring, and something else were put in, with the items telling the future of the one who found them. I've only read that and never heard of it being done in Cape Breton.

Sitting here now after the trick or treaters have finished mowing into a bowl of it!

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