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AramaicDesigns t1_iv2kejk wrote

Aye one of the main reasons why "Italian" spoken among Italian-Americans over here in the US sounds so "funny" is because it's mostly a mix of the Napulitano, Sicilianu, and Calabrese languages – all of which are closer related to each other than to Standard Italian. And that's because most of our immigrant communities came from the south.

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TavindaFFLCH t1_iv2fe8l wrote

I have only a slight idea of Italian and German history, however, if I had to guess I would say that Italy has a stronger degree of "cultural division" because historically it's regions had very different influences. The south of Italy remained under Spanish rule for a long time, and had more contact with the Arabs, as for the North it experimented more"freedom". They were safer from the Spanish and other influences, and were able to develop "by themselves". Central Italy was ruled directly by the pope for ages. Also, we can't forget that the sense of "cultural identity" comes from the 19th century, before then language was not a major cultural marker, but because modern Italian has very distinct dialects, they might have remained aa means to locals maintain the fragmentation that once existed. That's a wild guess tho.

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hydrOHxide t1_iv2dlam wrote

Well, Germany wasn't that unified in that the unification of Germany as such was only achieved by cutting ties with Austria, which traditionally had been a core part of Germany.

But there had been a strong desire for unity for decades. The Prussian king had been offered an imperial crown decades earlier but didn't want a crown that was offered to him by the common rabble - if he was to be emperor and unify the country, then it had to be under his terms in a top-down approach.

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