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Reply to comment by [deleted] in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
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Reply to comment by loups in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
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loups t1_ivlkux0 wrote
Reply to comment by FateEntity in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
As far as I could tell from the article the statues had both Etruscan and Roman inscriptions, and shows that the elites of both nations prayed together even though they warred.
va_wanderer t1_ivljis9 wrote
Reply to comment by WoosterChops in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
They ended up buried in the soft mud at the bottom, which shielded them from the corrosion you might otherwise expect.
FateEntity t1_ivljhw7 wrote
Reply to comment by VoloNoscere in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
Could you elaborate, please, what this changes or why is such a big find? For those of us who don't know much about this kind of stuff.
WoosterChops t1_ivlil33 wrote
How is it possible that these bronze statues spent so long in a hot spring, and yet they don’t have sediments of minerals on them, not even tarnish?
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Reply to comment by unnccaassoo in Discovery of bronzes rewrites Italy’s Etruscan-Roman history by VoloNoscere
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intothewildthings t1_ivl9yld wrote
Reply to Bookclub Wednesday! by AutoModerator
My wife just moved to the US and she’s looking for a good book on US History. Her English is good, but she’d like to read something a little less dry and shorter than a college textbook. I would greatly appreciate any recommendations! Thanks!
unnccaassoo t1_ivl2zn9 wrote
This is huge, we are talking about a pit inside a temple where for 3-4 centuries Etruscan and roman people used to put votive artifacts, sometimes around 100ac the pit was closed and basically everything in it was preserved in a time capsule.
enfiel t1_ivkuoi4 wrote
Reply to comment by F1ackM0nk3y in When it comes to Cuba's military victory at the Bay of Pigs, does Che Guevara deserve any credit or should it be assigned exclusively to Castro's leadership? by Anglicanpolitics123
I just imagined Castro getting angry they were messing with his fishing pond :D
shantipole t1_ivkto3n wrote
Reply to comment by McGillis_is_a_Char in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
It's the difference between a 1920s produce truck and a modern diesel delivery truck. Bigger, more capable, many incremental improvements in all systems, optimized for wartime, but no major obvious changes.
Some of those incremental improvements would be things like double-planking, copper bottoms (arguably not incremental), larger gun decks, bigger guns, framing to reduce hogging, better powder handling, etc. But a ship of the line was recognizably just a later member of the galleon type.
Ball1522 t1_ivkqw7y wrote
Reply to comment by SeleucusNikator1 in A 1000-year-old Viking silver treasure found in Sweden by drexa24
They went a lot of places but my point is they enslaved pillaged and raped but when talking about the vikings it never gets brought up only what they achieved. Britain gets slated all the time about slavery but nothing gets said about what they did to make up for the mistakes they made, It’s a double standard and it always will be.
autosummarizer t1_ivkq91e wrote
Reply to comment by JonasNinetyNine in Dating the Mahabharata war – A tale of eclipses, archaeology, and genealogies by SomeDesiGuy
According to Vashistha Siddhanta which was 'supposedly' composed around 1200-1100 BCE, they definitely could predict the motion of sun and moon. Here is a 1980 paper on the topic.
JonasNinetyNine t1_ivko2pk wrote
Reply to comment by Jonathan3628 in Dating the Mahabharata war – A tale of eclipses, archaeology, and genealogies by SomeDesiGuy
Well, did the civilization that produced the text possess a elaborate and accurate grasp on and interest in astronomy, as far back as 2922 years ago?
And to date the war, one must operate under the assumption that it was an historical event, and shouldn't rather be understood as a part of vedic mythology
autosummarizer t1_ivkmxyc wrote
Reply to comment by Jonathan3628 in Dating the Mahabharata war – A tale of eclipses, archaeology, and genealogies by SomeDesiGuy
Here is the eclipse the author is talking about. I extracted the information from the NASA site he mentioned in the article.
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/5MCSEmap/-0999--0900/-900-11-05.gif
Jonathan3628 t1_ivk7lpb wrote
Reply to comment by JonasNinetyNine in Dating the Mahabharata war – A tale of eclipses, archaeology, and genealogies by SomeDesiGuy
What seems pseudoscientific about it? The article was based on using astronomical events described in the text to determine the timing of events. Astronomical dating is an accepted technique in history, isn't it? (I know it's popular in Near Eastern history and in Mesoamerican history, but perhaps it isn't as accepted in Indian history?)
Are there flaws in the author's interpretation of the astronomical events, or the calculations he used?
The main issue I can think of is that maybe the astronomical information used to date the war (a solar eclipse that occurred in or slightly after the month of Kartika, which ended before sunset, and did not start too early in the day; and that there would have been a full moon very shortly before the war started) does not correspond to reality. For example, maybe the solar eclipse was just "made up" to make the story appear more impressive?
I'm not sure how a historian would determine whether the astronomical phenomena described in the text are real or not.
VoloNoscere OP t1_ivk4uor wrote
The discovery of more than 2000-year-old bronze statues in the Tuscany region represents a key finding that could change our understanding of the transition from Etruscan civilization to the Roman Empire. Discovered in a hot spring, the statues are preserved thanks to the mud. In addition to the statues, more than 5,000 silver and gold coins were discovered.
Sweet-Obligation3130 t1_ivk0okm wrote
Describe a time period in history that you wish you could visit. Why did you chose that era?
SeleucusNikator1 t1_ivjybte wrote
Reply to comment by Ball1522 in A 1000-year-old Viking silver treasure found in Sweden by drexa24
Or Russia. IIRC the general gist was that Danes and Norwegians went to Britain, while 'Swedes' (Svea, Goths, etc.) went eastwards to Russia and into the Black Sea.
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SeleucusNikator1 t1_ivjxpok wrote
Reply to comment by Shorzey in They fled persecution in Nazi Germany. Then the British put them behind barbed wire by lanzkron
There had also already been an Arab revolt against British rule in the Levant and Zionist settlement in the 1930s, so there wasn't much apetite to add more "fuel to the fire" by having even more Jewish settlers come to the region
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine
SeleucusNikator1 t1_ivjx7qt wrote
Reply to comment by BackwardPalindrome in They fled persecution in Nazi Germany. Then the British put them behind barbed wire by lanzkron
> Did you never consider the idea that the German government might ask one or two of its citizens to... Oh, I don't know, lie for espionage purposes?
Tbh the Nazis were so abysmally incompetent at espionage that they genuinely might not have thought of that trick harhar.
McGillis_is_a_Char t1_ivjqarv wrote
Reply to comment by TheGreatOneSea in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
Actually I did mean the obvious stuff. I am not good at eyeballing changes in a ship's lines, and the Wikipedia is rather vague on the evolution. Thank you for your consideration.
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Reply to Dating the Mahabharata war – A tale of eclipses, archaeology, and genealogies by SomeDesiGuy
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