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craigiest t1_ivy9i9y wrote
Reply to comment by KingTut747 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
This isn’t true. In this NASA account of NASA history they call it an accident, an explosion, and a “fiery crash.” “Major malfunction” is just the phrase the announcer used when it became apparent that something had gone wrong. Besides, this is a news article. There would be no obligation that the writer hew to technical language even if NASA did. This isn’t a technical report.
Epcplayer t1_ivy9fxc wrote
Reply to comment by AthiestLoki in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
I was going off just last week, when he was the NASA director… but yeah, Space Shuttle Columbia as well.
Columbia Accident Investigation Board
> It was the seventh known instance of a piece of foam, from this particular area of the external tank, breaking free during launch.
> The problem of debris shedding from the external tank was well known and had caused shuttle damage on every prior shuttle flight. The damage was usually, but not always, minor. Over time, management gained confidence that it was an acceptable risk.
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AthiestLoki t1_ivy7mxe wrote
Reply to comment by Epcplayer in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Not to mention the other shuttle explosion...
AdmiralPoopbutt t1_ivy7mcg wrote
Reply to comment by johnn48 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
They'll probably consult the families and respect their wishes either way.
A previous story mentioned that the families were contacted before the news ran. The production company for the diving operation probably doesn't have contact information for all those people so I assume NASA has been involved for some time.
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bangdazap t1_ivy4is3 wrote
Reply to comment by superslowboy in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
I know German POW were enlisted to clear minefields after WWII, both naval and on land. Some fortified buildings like U-boat pens resisted demolition and were left as they were.
Some land on the WWI western front was so severely destroyed that it still hasn't been returned to agricultural use
bangdazap t1_ivy441z wrote
Reply to comment by Anidiotwasher in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
I don't know of any that would fit the bill before 1932. There was a German 13 mm anti-tank rifle introduced in 1918, but it wasn't fitted with a scope and was not suitable for sniping in any case (due to being too heavy and bulky).
If I recall correctly, the US experimented with a .50 anti-tank rifle, but decided that the M2 heavy machine gun (also in .50 BMG) would fill that role better.
intern_steve t1_ivy3wpw wrote
Reply to comment by isanameaname in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
If you watch old slow motion footage of the boosters during launch you can actually see small puffs of smoke escaping from the seams between booster segments before the o rings extrude to fill the gap.
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KingTut747 t1_ivy01ta wrote
Reply to comment by fantasmoofrcc in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Major malfunction is literally the strongest language NASA uses to describe an incident… The rocket blowing up is considered a major malfunction by NASA. They use very technical verbiage.
I am really not sure why you think you should be the one creating verbiage for NASA?
windsingr t1_ivxznla wrote
Reply to What was the societal role of polytheistic Mediterranean religions and their priests? by bhejda
It is important to note that Ancient Hellenic practice was an orthopraxic religion, not an orthodoxic one. What this means is that religious observance was about DOING the right thing rather than THINKING the right thing. Want to appease the gods? Give them presents, don't talk shit on them. An orthodoxic religion wants you to feel bad if you miss church or believe in a set of commandments.
The practical upside of the more reasonable orthopraxic practices is where they benefit the people regardless of their religious standing. In Hellenic religion you might sacrifice animals or cloth or grains or wine to the gods, but they only require a small portion of the consumable parts or take the inedible parts. What happens to the rest? It's a party! The amount of meat involved in a bull, pig, or goat sacrifice can be substantial, and feed not only the family but whole neighborhoods in a polis. This now means that thanks to the full religious calendars, even the poor are getting meat on a regular basis. To say nothing of wine, grains, cloth...
Orthopraxic Hellenic religion was not just a source of moral guidance, but a provider of public works and a source of welfare as well in a very direct way.
Even monthly household observances meant a meal left out for the gods at a nearby Herm or crossroads... Where homeless people and travelers could often be found. Come back the next day and look! The food is gone! The gods loved your offering! It's a miracle! And the homeless travelers think look! There is food when I need it! What a miracle! And no one thinks to question that traveler, because what if it's a god in disguise? This is also the source of the concept of Xenia, or Guest Right, which is incredibly common throughout that part of the world to this day.
Kataphractos t1_ivxxbsw wrote
Reply to comment by Specialist-Car1860 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
An artifact is anything made or modified by man.
Tiny-Bus-3820 t1_ivxxa3s wrote
Reply to comment by RedPninety in Bookclub Wednesday! by AutoModerator
I have read Stahr’s biography of William Seward…it’s an interesting read about an under appreciated and under estimated man.
pinotandsugar t1_ivxwl1w wrote
Reply to comment by YsoL8 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
More overtime for everyone........
truckerslife t1_ivxw41b wrote
Reply to NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
When the challenger exploded I was in first grade all the kids were gathered around an old crappy tv and watched it explode. The teacher about had a stroke trying to get to the tv to turn it off.
truckerslife t1_ivxvkgf wrote
Reply to comment by Specialist-Car1860 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Any chunk left is considered an artifact of the event
pinotandsugar t1_ivxuvdj wrote
Reply to comment by DaoFerret in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Feynman's addendum to the Challenger Report and "Truth, Lies and "O" Rings should be mandatory reading for young engineering, and MBA students.
""For a successful technology," Feynman concluded, "reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."[6]"
domoincarn8 t1_ivxum5f wrote
Reply to comment by NomadHellscream in What was the societal role of polytheistic Mediterranean religions and their priests? by bhejda
There is no way in hell I would call the monotheistic Abhrahmic God "benevolent". The entire Old Testament is well, a testament to his atrocities, for no reason.
He got a makeover later on, but most older polytheistic Gods could not get that makeover, due to their religions dying out.
YsoL8 t1_ivxtwa8 wrote
Reply to comment by Epcplayer in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Ouch.
Agree its pretty dubious though. Probably end up having to take it off the pad to fix it and recertify it anyway.
Specialist-Car1860 t1_ivxtcv5 wrote
Reply to NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
An artifact? Really? That's amazing. What kind? I didn't know they had any artifacts on the Challenger.
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Epcplayer t1_ivxjouj wrote
Reply to comment by marketrent in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
> At NASA, the core value of safety is - and must forever remain - our top priority, especially as our missions explore more of the cosmos than ever before.
…proceeds to leave Artemis rocket out on the launch pad during a Hurricane…
wolfie379 t1_ivxi1gp wrote
Reply to comment by Pihkal1987 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Although if the person making the callout was looking at a screen of data from the telemetry, rather than a video (or Mark 1 eyeball$ of the launch, they might have assumed that the sudden stop in data was due to a major malfunction of the telemetry rather than a catastrophic failure of the craft.
NoisyKnight t1_ivy9kb0 wrote
Reply to comment by porkchop2022 in NASA leaders recently viewed footage of an underwater dive off the East coast of Florida, and they confirm it depicts an artifact from the space shuttle Challenger by marketrent
Link to the History Channel twitter video showing the found debris.