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_Patrao_ t1_iwbnihr wrote
Reply to comment by 2dTom in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
Exactly. It is an option which I can entertain as a possibility no doubt, but I don't think it is reasonable to take it as a certainty as it was not demonstrated, just hypothesised. Once again it's not that I doubt it, I find it possible or maybe probable given that it is, and unfortunately, a human universal, but the evidence is just not there. At least yet.
tinolovespups t1_iwbn9e6 wrote
I mean honestly what do they expect from old times.
Jester252 t1_iwbmo5y wrote
Reply to comment by severed13 in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
That's what I love about history.
I want to see what humans in 1000 years think of Shaq statue.
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LateInTheAfternoon t1_iwbm719 wrote
Reply to comment by Coventus in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
The opposite would be humanely branded, I'm sure.
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HG_Shurtugal t1_iwbm4ls wrote
Is there such a thing as being unbrutally branded.
Rear-gunner OP t1_iwblo28 wrote
Reply to comment by Zigazig_ahhhh in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
It's a likely possibility
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Reply to comment by claudecardinal in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
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prpslydistracted t1_iwbkazk wrote
Can't for the life of me remember the book but I read an autobiography of a frontier woman (late 1800s, Midwest) who lost a young daughter. She hired a laborer to help her move a stone step from the only primitive church around; she used it as a grave marker for her daughter and carved the name and dates herself. Poignant confession. The settlement knew it was her but didn't act on it. The woman died in the 1920s.
2dTom t1_iwbjy5o wrote
Reply to comment by _Patrao_ in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
There are a lot of domesticated animals smaller than cattle that the brands could have been used on.
Off the top of my head, Egyptian society used sheep, goats, and donkeys.
As you stated, the evidence is tenuous at best.
Edit: I re-read the article and the author discusses the idea of branding goats or donkeys, but doesn't actually address it, merely stating 'other options must be explored'. Which is fine, but the rest of the article only examines why they could be used for branding people, not why it is more likely than the usage of these brands for smaller livestock.
severed13 t1_iwbjspn wrote
Reply to comment by Metal-Scrunch in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
Most of history is, since I would imagine you can’t ask any ancient egyptian slave owners directly
claudecardinal t1_iwbjc5p wrote
>Pharaoh prohibited the Jewish slaves from returning to their homes
Is there any evidence of Jews in Egypt at the time of the Pharaohs? I have never seen any credible source with artifacts or documents, yet always people repeat the story as if it is common knowledge.
Coventus t1_iwbj7e2 wrote
As opposed to being...ethically branded?
Zigazig_ahhhh t1_iwbj1ci wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
It's a perfectly reasonable conjecture. It is definitely an unreasonable conclusion.
Mindless_Challenge11 t1_iwbiupr wrote
Reply to comment by Zigazig_ahhhh in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
Well what's the evidence that these ancient egyptian branding irons were intended for use on cattle in the first place? Genuinely curious here if anyone knows the answer!
(After all, comparing the evidence we have for their different possible uses would be the best way to evaluate the strength of this argument. For instance, if we had extant cow hides bearing brand-marks that matched the patterns on some of the irons, or visual depictions of branded cattle, or textual descriptions of people branding cattle using branding irons, that would be pretty strong evidence for that form of use.)
_W1T3W1N3_ t1_iwbi7rp wrote
Reply to comment by Rear-gunner in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
Tattoos were widely available since 3000BC and are still used by criminal networks today. Something to think about.
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buteo51 t1_iwbha7i wrote
The technical term for this is spolia if you’re interested in reading about more examples.
Why cut your own stone when there’s a perfectly good Roman mausoleum over there? The Romans aren’t using it anymore.
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[deleted] t1_iwbg8fz wrote
Reply to comment by Zigazig_ahhhh in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
I don't think it's that much of an unreasonable conclusion
Zigazig_ahhhh t1_iwbf67l wrote
Reply to comment by Rear-gunner in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
So there's no actual evidence? It's just someone saying, "Hey, these cattle brands are really small, and they look like human brands from thousands of years later and from a different region of the world."
Metal-Scrunch t1_iwbes9v wrote
Reply to comment by Rear-gunner in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
'Were likely used to mark the skin of human slaves' - so its all based on assumptions.
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Zigazig_ahhhh t1_iwbo0m3 wrote
Reply to comment by Rear-gunner in Slaves were brutally branded in ancient Egypt, research shows by Rear-gunner
Yes, but the way the article presents it as a fact is disingenuous.