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jedipiper t1_iwk1iy8 wrote
Reply to comment by Piratebuttseckz in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
Well, wouldn't it make more sense that modern Spanish has words from Arabic in it because of the Moorish Conquests and vice versa? Also, Spanish still has a heavy Latin influence and Arabs would have interacted with Latin speakers way back.
Or is that your point?
Piratebuttseckz t1_iwjulem wrote
Reply to comment by Milkhemet_Melekh in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
I never realized how much languages interact until i learned persian farsi as my third (after english and spanish) i found that although i couldnt speak arabic, i understood a fair few of the (written) words that i saw. The other thing was how many words lined up close enough from spanish to persian, i could absolutely believe modern european language has tones of vestigial language in it, and im just some shmuck, let alome professional hands
aWheatgeMcgee t1_iwjpldj wrote
Reply to comment by Whoknows_nmn in Zakhiku: The ancient city in Iraq revealed by severe drought by IslandChillin
Zakhiku was founded around 1,800 BC by the Old Babylonian Empire that ruled Mesopotamia between the 19th and 15th centuries BC. With only water and soil in the area, Zakhiku was established to take advantage of the traffic of caravans and a flourishing trade route in the Near East, which includes the present-day Middle East, Turkey and Egypt.
The trading post grew into an important commercial city in the region for about 600 years before it was hit by an earthquake and later abandoned.
Zakhiku disappeared altogether in the 1980s, when – as part of the Mosul Dam project, built under the late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein – it was flooded and submerged. Previously known as Saddam Dam, it is Iraq’s largest and most important water reservoir used for downstream irrigation.
DaddyCatALSO t1_iwjofll wrote
Reply to comment by iammonkeyorsomething in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
Neither will fFrance
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Reply to comment by SeaworthinessGood711 in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
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ISISsleeperagent t1_iwjmx3n wrote
Reply to Bookclub Wednesday! by AutoModerator
Anyone know of a good audiobook on the Soviet theater in WWII? I'm looking for something that goes in depth on operations of specific battles and/or the politics in Moscow.
I'd love to listen to a 50+ hour series like Ian Toll's trilogy on the war in the Pacific but haven't been able to find one
SeaworthinessGood711 t1_iwjk4xk wrote
Reply to comment by WhackIsBack in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
My favourite is the word for train... Txutxu.
Milkhemet_Melekh t1_iwjiou7 wrote
Reply to comment by rcrabb in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
This isn't really sci-fi. Linguistic science already has pretty solid ways of finding these, and has done so for a while.
nur5e t1_iwjeqq5 wrote
Reply to comment by eggs4breakfasy in What was used in late medieval to early modern england for mensuration products? by dragracesssss
Or, they didn’t have enough excess industrial capacity for luxury items. I worked with a couple of women in the early eights that had fled brutal communism in East Germany that got along fine without wasteful pads that most American women use.
iammonkeyorsomething t1_iwjbbdh wrote
Reply to comment by Cualkiera67 in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
It could be because the Basque want to be an independent country but Spain won't let them
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Reply to comment by Farinthoughts in Gravestones were used by the people to build houses by ValdisPunk
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Farinthoughts t1_iwj92tp wrote
Reply to comment by milkmamasilk in Gravestones were used by the people to build houses by ValdisPunk
A coffin might have to be moved or there are no family members alive anymore - oh any number of reasons. Hence no need for a gravemarker anymore. We might believe our final resting place will be for eternity but often it is not.
What I mean is the graveyard caretakers has to do this but I dont think they are more prone to haunting than any other person. I am half a skeptic to the existance of ghosts.
rcrabb t1_iwj7atk wrote
Reply to comment by StickFigureFan in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
I’m going to hypothesize right now that future research using advanced language evolution modeling will predict that some number of words in European languages are derived from some of these hypothetical dead languages.
Multiverseer t1_iwj70pk wrote
So much war takes place in the most ancient of human habitats, for whatever reason. Hope they can excavate it quick.
RE5TE t1_iwj68el wrote
Reply to comment by joseba_ in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
> Euskera was a very free form language, mostly relying on spoken word
> the euskera spoken in the early 20th century should be really similar to whatever version of it they were speaking 2000 years ago
Those are opposites.
dutchwonder t1_iwj4nrm wrote
Reply to comment by ChaseSweatshirt in Tracks Of Ancient Human Found In Spain Are 300k Years Old by Several_Cabinet_9725
Oh no, he has very much earned his reputation as pseudohistorical hack with his terrible research methodology, heavy reliance on old, outdated, and often plain bad secondary sources without doing even basic checks. (For instance, are they even reading the maps they're working with?), and his blatant mischaracterization of the field and studies.
Of course, Graham's explanation for why anyone knowledgeable in the field immediately calls him out for his flagrant and basic mistakes is that they must be in cahoots instead of his "research" being terrible.
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Reply to comment by AlfaBetaZulu in Zakhiku: The ancient city in Iraq revealed by severe drought by IslandChillin
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joseba_ t1_iwj2t50 wrote
Reply to comment by IslandChillin in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
Thats a remarkably similar word to what we use today in euskera : zorioneko. Euskera was a very free form language, mostly relying on spoken word, up until the 1980s when Euskaltzaindia introduced "Euskera batua". In a way, the euskera spoken in the early 20th century should be really similar to whatever version of it they were speaking 2000 years ago, it's really impressive
joseba_ t1_iwj2c91 wrote
Reply to Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
Should be highlighted the previous "oldest writings in basque" we had (Glosas Emilianses) dated from either the 10th or 11th centuries. These scribes also included the first few Castilian Spanish writings so this new discovery is really remarkable and highlights the isolated nature of early Basque settlers
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milkmamasilk t1_iwj1m3c wrote
Reply to comment by Farinthoughts in Gravestones were used by the people to build houses by ValdisPunk
Bot what do you mean?
Farinthoughts t1_iwj1b26 wrote
Reply to comment by milkmamasilk in Gravestones were used by the people to build houses by ValdisPunk
Sometimes grave markers are removed and destroyed though by the caretakers for several reason. Its a bit upsetting to see them.
AlfaBetaZulu t1_iwj19oc wrote
I imagine there is much more still under water? Based on the people in the photo this would be a very small city if that's all there is to it.
Cualkiera67 t1_iwizr6f wrote
Reply to comment by IAm-The-Lawn in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
If it was found 2,100 years ago why are we hearing about it only now?
Important_Collar_36 t1_iwk3gwi wrote
Reply to comment by RE5TE in Irulegui Hand: Researchers claim to have found earliest document written in Basque 2,100 years ago by IslandChillin
Well in 2000+ years the pronunciation of this particular word stayed the same, the only thing that changed was the actual spelling.
It sounds like there were very few literate speakers until the language was fully codified recently. Meaning that it was free in that perhaps different families or communities had slightly different pronunciation of various words but could understand each other easily despite that fact.