I'll ask here because I'm not wanting anymore for moderator approval.

If polytheistic people have a problem and they want to pray to the gods for help and they have multiple gods available who do they pray to? Let's use ancient Greeks as the believers and battle as the scenario. When Greeks were in battle did they pray to Ares? Athena? Or Nike? Maybe to their patron gods in case of isolated groups of people? Were the prayers regional or situational? Was it both or neither? I'm really intrigued in this topic because it's not really one people talk about or they just summarise it Into "people from Athens prayed to Athena and Spartans prayed to Ares". I'm really exited for the discussion in the comments. If any of you know more gods from the same religion that rule same or similar domains let me know.

There are psychological theories like Jung's collective unconscious.

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Translation: it's MY PRESHUSSSS

Are you asking this question because of that Netflix series?

The article title literally states this ring was found in the mud. What are you not telling us?

What is it about the two theories you mention that doesn’t do it for you? What questions don’t they answer? If there were another theory that offered a sufficiently plausible answer it would be up there with these two.

The agoge was not a building. It was a training program for most male Spartan citizens.

So there are two accounts of Leif Erikson's story: Saga of Erik the Red, and Saga of the Greenlanders.

Saga of Erik the Red says he was blown off course on his way to Greenland from Norway. He landed in Vinland, and found grapes, wheat, and maple trees. He eventually loaded the ship and went back to Greenland. He never went back, but others did.

Saga of the Greenlanders is different. Bjarni Herjólfsson was the first to see America, spotting it but not disembarking. He returned back home to tell about his discovery, and Leif decided to buy his ship so he could go back and explore. He eventually made it to Vinland, meaning Wineland because of all the grapes there. He stayed through the winter before leaving in spring or summer. Again, he didn't come back, but people such as Thorfinn Karlsefni made settlements.

They just took a bunch of resources and left, and they did have wood. They really didn’t have the need to do it. Also, part of the reason why they left is because of trouble with the natives.

I hope this answers your first question, but it’s mostly copied from a previous comment I made on a different question.

I'm surprised that there is such a big deal about finding a piece. I know they searched a large area but given the vast area in which debris landed it is likely that there is a lot more out there.

I can hear it calling to me, so probably.

Thanks!

During the American Civil War moving quickly from column to line was one of the essential skills recruits were taught, IIUC.

You can see some great examples in the movie Gettysburg, especially in the parts about day 1, when Heth's Confederate division arrives - they come in column and the officers direct each regiment into line, just out of range of the the Union troops.

Ah, thank you! I couldn't figure out the title. Much clearer now.

Re: Deployment of Reserves

About half a century ago the USAF sent a troublesome Col down to the basement of the Pentagon to keep him from causing more trouble. Was a bad move for the hierarchy as Col Boyd, having changed the criteria for the design of fighter jets, developed a presentation on winning and losing based on history. When the generals called for a 1 hour brief on the presentation Boyd stood his ground, it was an all day presentation that looked back as strategies over the ages.

Relevant to this discussion ------Starting around Page 39 it shows how "reserves" were used in many historic battles.

https://www.coljohnboyd.com/static/documents/2018-03__Boyd_John_R__edited_Hammond_Grant_T__A_Discourse_on_Winning_and_Losing.pdf

For those not familiar with the name , he drug the USAF away from large, complex fighters and is considered to be the godfather of the F-16. Rejected by the USAF top brass he found an intellectual home with the Marines where he fathered the Marine's land battle doctrine of maneuver warfare. Along the way he was the father of the OODA loop , originally created as a teaching tool for fighter pilots he was training.

An interesting tribute to Boyd appears in the Arlington National Cemetery site and is well worth reading . Pretty much the hero you never heard about . Observers noted that most of those in attendance were Marines . His teachings were the foundation of their success in the first Iraq war.

https://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jrboyd.htm

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If the ring was magical it’d probably be worth more

From now on I’m measuring everything in Mud Worth

Great answer.... The reinforcement (although not strictly reinforcement) might be by opening a second front on the flank or rear of the enemy.

No way. Isildur was attacked and lost the ring hundreds of years ago. Its probably at the bottom of some river, hidden in the mud. Seems very unlikely some random guy would just find it

You get them in antiquity. Off the top of my head, the Romans had the Nero redivivus theories that claimed that Nero was still alive and would come back to rule Rome. This actually had some impact, as we got what we call Pseudo-Nero(s) who would show up and claim to be Nero, and some of them would get some sizable followings.

With less mythology attached, we get a lot of Pretenders who claim to be so and so's lost son, and try and seize thrones. One of the more infamous cases from antiquity was the case of Pseudo-Philip, or Andriscus, who claimed to be Philip VI of Macedon and was the direct cause of the Fourth Macedonian War.

Then you have incidents like the mutilation of the hermae and the mimicry of the Mysteries in fifth century Athens which caused a lot of conspiracy theories and a lot of witch hunts. Everything from the Spartans, or some other group, having secretly invaded, to either pro-democracy, or anti-democracy political factions sending a message, to named individuals of importance directly causing these events (something that Alcibiades was greatly affected by).

Or stories that the Carthaginians were conspiring with the Persians because two famous battles seemed to have happened on the same day. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Himera_(480_BC)

When you mix in a lot of emotion, a lack of verifiable information, and a period where gossip could spread without much fact checking or wholly reliable news sources, you get a lot of things like this.

How do we know we’re not in the second age?

Is it really necessary to show people with bad personalities in the comments? So gross

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She must have been pissed when she lost the ring. Imagine if she lost it on her wedding night!