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mauganra_it t1_ixc8qym wrote
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Rather the exception than the norm then.
Creoda t1_ixc7cs0 wrote
Reply to Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
What annoys me is the heading "shipwreck sees the light of day" yet there's no photo of it.
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mauganra_it t1_ixc53ba wrote
Reply to comment by the_very_next_day in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
The decline of Chinese civilization during the 19th century is a major departure from the flow of Chinese history until then. China has been conquered many times, but so far the conquerors always assimilated to Chinese civilization. Colonization by foreign powers and the Unequal Treaties were a new pattern, and these events still loom large in the collective psyche of the Chinese people.
toyyya t1_ixc51pt wrote
Reply to comment by LeoSolaris in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
Even we here in Sweden have raised a pretty darn big ship from the 1600s and have since put it on display in a museum.
We did that in the 60s, it ain't exactly a huge innovation to be able to do so
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the_very_next_day t1_ixc3jrw wrote
Reply to comment by mauganra_it in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
I'd have thought that modern Chinese history starts with the fall of the qing dynasty, but anyway there's a difference between "not modern" and "ancient"
KiwieeiwiK t1_ixc3d6u wrote
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True, we should go to one of the western media organisations that cover Chinese scientific and technological advances such as.... Uhhhhh.......
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phenyle t1_ixbxfw6 wrote
Reply to comment by LeoSolaris in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
It might be the character 古, which can mean either simply "old" or "ancient", depending on the context
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mekatzer t1_ixbtj7r wrote
Reply to comment by kruzer912 in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
You mean like in the Ken Burns cave paintings?
Northstar1989 t1_ixbr6xm wrote
Reply to comment by imperialus81 in what was the population of ancient Mesopotamia? by Omastnar
Tacitus was a late Imperial historian writing in a period of relative peace, and known to be subject to exaggeration and outright flattery at times to ingratiate himself with the powerful.
That being said, he was most definitely talking about garrison troops. Legions did occasionally travel with substantial swine herds to eat, but nowhere near the scale of 1 hog per day per 40 men. A figure of around 1 hog per day per 250 men might be more accurate for an army on a prolonged campaign.
Note that few legions in Tacitus' day actually went on such long campaigns. The legions were generally fairly sedentary at the time, only marching relatively short distances to deal with border incursions.
The Dacian Wars towards the end of Tacitus' life were one major exception to this rule: and although the legions were exceptionally well supplied during them as Dacia was quite close to major Greek and Illaryian holdings of Rome (and connected to them by navigable rivers), you'll likely find that meat consumption for the actively canpaigning legions even then fell substantially below this figure of 1 per 60 if you look into any reliable statistics available for the wars.
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Terrh t1_ixbjkvp wrote
Reply to comment by Calcaneum in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
But that's when it was built, not when it sunk.
They aren't sure when it sunk and it might have been less than 100 years ago based upon some of what has been found on board.
So not really all that ancient, but still really really interesting!
mrgonzalez t1_ixbihpm wrote
Reply to comment by tafinucane in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
To Chinese land archaeology? Massively
aykavalsokec OP t1_ixbidzg wrote
Reply to comment by Laura-ly in How to explain similar symbols/motifs which are found around the world? by aykavalsokec
There are other combinations to depict arms/hands.
They dont need to do streching exercises though.
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Reply to comment by OriginalHeat6514 in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
You see the Eastern Romans greatly expand their Empire in several instances.
There's Justinian reconquering Africa and Italy.
There's Phokas reconquering Cilicia and Syria.
There's Basil the Bulgar Slayer conquering Bulgaria.
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It's not known if L'Anse Aux Meadows was their only settlement in North America. From the descriptions of Vinland it seems likely that they explored the Gulf of Saint Lawrence. They might have gone further, we don't know.
Timber was very valuable to the Greenland settlements, but not valuable enough where you would export it to Europe. Vinland wasn't barren of forests. Perhaps you're thinking of Markland (Labrador)?
They took wood from Vinland to Greenland. They traded mass amounts of walrus ivory from Greenland to Europe (it was perhaps 99% of their exports), in exchange for tools and finished goods.
The Norse Greenlanders were a European civilization and it was very important to them to keep access to that European trade link. They were not fully self sufficient like Inuit people. So the Vinland settlement was perceived as just a source of materials for Greenland. I believe they likely explored further but any further settlements would have been perceived as too far from the civilizational link in Greenland.
jonnycash11 t1_ixbgmwz wrote
Reply to comment by mauganra_it in Ancient shipwreck sees light of day again, a major milestone for Chinese underwater archaeology by IslandChillin
I think you mean “Feudal China” not ancient.
Ancient China would be the Zhou or Shang dynasties, maybe even the legendary Xia dynasty.
The Chinese 古代 period ends about 2000BC, based on this baidubaike (Chinese Wikipedia) article.
toyyya t1_ixcaxb2 wrote
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Pretty darn cool, you can definitely tell the difference in the seas of how well it survived in the waters.
We raised the Vasa out of the Baltic Sea which isn't quite salty or quite fresh water (aka brackish water). Meaning that there are less creatures able to break it down living in the waters which is why it survived relatively intact.