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Pudding_Hero t1_ixj555f wrote

Trade and to even an certain sense global trade existed. Hundreds of years of mixed stories and intelligences.

Also Persia being a super-nation state would have hired,Merced out, or raised, Greek speakers.

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IslandChillin OP t1_ixj41xy wrote

"A hoard of gold coins once thought to be fakes have been authenticated by researchers who say the artefacts reveal a long-lost Roman emperor.

The coins bear the name and image of a shadowy historical figure, Sponsian, whose existence was previously placed in doubt by experts who suggested the coins were the work of sophisticated 18th-century fraudsters.

But a scientific analysis has concluded that the coins are genuine third-century artefacts, and the researchers make the case that Emperor Sponsian was also the real deal.

“We’re very confident that they’re authentic,” said Prof Paul Pearson, of University College London, who led the research. “Our evidence suggests Sponsian ruled Roman Dacia, an isolated goldmining outpost, at a time when the empire was beset by civil wars and the borderlands were overrun by plundering invaders.”

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OldWierdo t1_ixj3m6v wrote

It's not that it's easy, it's that it was necessary and you had some decent job opportunities. Hate backbreaking work of farming where you might break even? Learn a language from traveling salesmen and entertainers.Go tell a wealthy merchant you've got a language you think he could use, how much? Bam, you aren't a farmer anymore.

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You_called_moi t1_ixj2xav wrote

The difference is evidence. When you can present something like an old map that shows the location of islands that once existed, it's impact is rather different to saying 'archaeologists HATE ME for saying this, but ancient people came from overseas to teach the indigenous people how to build pyramids- source: trust me, I'm not an expert, I'm a journalist'. If he had solid evidence to prove his claims, then that would be taken a lot more seriously, I'm sure.

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Anonymous_Redhead t1_ixj0zv2 wrote

Eh, I wasn’t that invested in the comment to get nuanced about it. Columbus Day was a holiday created to appease Italian Americans after the worst KKK massacre in history and was slowly Americanized as a way to celebrate the “discovery” of America. I get wanting to be rid of it, I just thought it a bit callous and supremely disingenuous.

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Ripheus-33 t1_ixizws0 wrote

I don’t see there being an inherent problem with people taking pride in their ancestry, but I agree it’s a slippery slope and there’s examples of people across all ethnicities who take it too far and become full on fascists. What everyone needs to do is just be well rounded and respectful when it comes to cultures.

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GreatWizardGreyfarn t1_ixivm1u wrote

Hi all! I’m really getting into naval history, specifically in the Napoleonic Era but anything about the Age of Sail really! I’ll take any non fiction recommendations, but I’m always interested in lesser known stories.

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foospork t1_ixiu2rz wrote

I’ve been watching Tangier Island, VA (near Crisfield, MD) fade away over the past 10 years.

IIRC, it’s been inhabited by European settlers since the 1600s. It was used as a base by the British during their attack on Washington during the War of 1812.

Tangier Island looks like another place that will soon succumb to this fate.

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Ferengi_Earwax t1_ixisx8v wrote

There were greek mercenaries in the Persian army, not to mention the other Greek populations the Persians were overlords of. Not all Greeks were against the Persians. Also, after the war, themistokles was later ostracized and served the Persians for the rest of his life. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themistocles

Go to the sub section titled "Greeks in exile to the achamaned empire" I'm sure you could find more info for other Greeks serving the Persians before the war following that source

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SeleucusNikator1 t1_ixiskf9 wrote

> Did he really discover it if a) we were already here? And B) the first Europeans to arrive were Vikings.

"Discover" can also mean discovering it for the Eurasian and African worlds, and I'd say he did discover it because the Vikings never shared their information with anyone and their voyages had no lasting impact outside of the very small area they were present in.

Norse Vinland is an interesting bit of history, but ultimately it did not matter much to the world since the colony quickly died out and the Norsemen did not establish any sustainable and long-lasting trade route or maintained contact with that land. Columbus is the famous one because he went back, told everyone what he found, and his voyage is what began the actual centuries only process of settlement, conquest, etc. which changed both continents forever.

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