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MassErect69 t1_ixts2h7 wrote
Reply to comment by sheerwaan in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
I think to prevent further confusion, it would be good to rephrase your question to something like “What is the oldest culture in existence that has remained largely unchanged since it originated?”
But this is a really difficult question. Most cultures, especially in the modern age, end up adopting aspects of other cultures that they enjoy
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Schertzhusker117 t1_ixtrlrr wrote
Reply to comment by sheerwaan in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
I mean if you’re looking for the complete authoritarian right wing that was the European way for so long I’m sure there are Windsor monarchists that want the Magna Carta revisited. What your asking for is so arbitrary that you need to revisit your question with more qualifiers of what truly is a culture. If you don’t take Greek as a definitive culture because modern Greeks are not traditional polytheists. Then you’re splitting hairs to a point that is undefinable. Best bet is governments at that point where the Magna Carta could be the most contiguous at this point, event if the philosophy of the country has changed more substantially since then (including a religious change).
Lothronion t1_ixtri9u wrote
Reply to comment by sheerwaan in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
The Christianization of the Greeks is not a spontaneous event, it is a transition that lasted for basically 6 centuries, from the teachings of the Apostle Paul to the last examples of Polytheists mentioned in the Eastern Roman Empire (the one in the 10th century AD by the Roman Emperor Constantine Porphyroghenetos is a mistake, he confused the nationaly Hellenes Mainotes with the religiously Hellenes Melingoi Slavs).
With that in mind, it is important to also remind how Greek Polytheism was not something static. In the 7th century BC, during the time of Solon, you would find Athena being worshiped in Athens, but 6 centuries before that, in the 13th century BC, you would find Potnia instead (which became Potnia of Athens, and from there formed Athena).
sheerwaan OP t1_ixtqc8y wrote
Reply to comment by Alternative_Demand96 in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
Well, this is not how things work. And neither you nor the Greeks can change what "continuity" and "passing on" means. The Greeks would change their culture the moment they converted to Christianity. Their culture would become different to their Greek culture from a decade earlier than that. Thats a cut, meaning continuity was broken, and thats what is relevant to my specific question.
Alternative_Demand96 t1_ixtq23z wrote
Reply to comment by sheerwaan in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
The Greeks decide themselves what Greek is , Christianity became a part of Greek culture in the same way it became a part of Roman culture
sheerwaan OP t1_ixtppbd wrote
Reply to comment by Lothronion in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
You can consider that included in what I am asking for. Religion is very much culture after all. The Greeks do not follow any of their ancient Greek values and believes but those of a Jewish reformer from Israel. Thats not Greek "culture". If you know a better word, you are welcome to tell me.
Lothronion t1_ixtpht8 wrote
Reply to What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
> the Greeks became Christians (change of culture).
This is not a change of culture, but a change of religion.
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LSF604 t1_ixtf8wv wrote
Reply to comment by TheNightIsLost in Ancient Ukrainian “megasites” may have been the world’s first cities, challenging long-held views on the beginnings of urbanism by marketrent
Abandoned for thousands of years by that point.
IslandChillin OP t1_ixtelz0 wrote
Archaeologists from Arkeologerna have unearthed an early 17th century sword from the time of the Kalmar War.
"The Kalmar War was a conflict between Denmark–Norway and Sweden that lasted from 1611 to 1613. The war was the result of ongoing disputes over trade routes, due to Denmark–Norway controlling a monopoly through the strait between the Baltic Sea and the North Sea.
Sweden sought to establish an alternate route through Lapland to avoid paying a toll on the use of the Øresund, or “Sound” strait, a toll that constituted up to two thirds of Denmark’s state income in the 16th and 17th centuries.
King Christian IV of Denmark and Norway protested to the Swedish King, Charles IX, but his protests over the new route was ignored. Finally, in April 1611, in response to Sweden’s claim of a traditionally Norwegian area in Northern Norway, Denmark-Norway declared war upon Sweden and invaded."
Any-Squirrel-3953 t1_ixt97qt wrote
Reply to comment by babushkalauncher in Why was unified Italy so culturally divided but unified Germany wasn't? by Bro_c0ly
Also somewhat ethnically diffrent in the south and west,and the north and west
JackRusselTerrorist t1_ixt56dd wrote
Reply to comment by BeeExpert in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
Grind down the bone remnants. Make jello.
No-Responsibility760 t1_ixt2msj wrote
Reply to comment by Imadope_1960 in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
As a Yankees fan, kinda hope they keep Fenway as long as it’ll stand. That’s something to preserve. It’ll be an interesting page to turn on baseball history when there are only modern ballparks.
No-Responsibility760 t1_ixt2c3x wrote
Reply to comment by PaulMcIcedTea in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
This, very much this
sunshinedaydream56 t1_ixt19lf wrote
Reply to comment by dropbear123 in Bookclub Wednesday! by AutoModerator
Do you think “the western front by Nick Lloyd” that you are currently reading on kindle would be accessible for someone just starting to get into WWI history? My fiancé has expressed interest in learning more after watching the all quiet on the western front movie, but he’s not like a history “buff” per se
Artanthos t1_ixsxrdn wrote
Reply to comment by nybbleth in Lost islands cited in Welsh folklore and poetry are plausible, new evidence on the evolution of the coastline of west Wales has revealed by marketrent
The whole point, there has been verification.
The no longer existing islands have been found. The Inuit villages have been found.
And there was absolutely no way either people could have guessed. They remembered mostly accurate information through thousands of years of oral history.
Equivalent_Alps_8321 t1_ixstj4o wrote
Reply to Researchers in Galicia open 15th-century tomb to test Columbus link theory. Explorer is generally believed to have been born in Italy in 1451 but some argue he was in fact born in Spain by ArtOak
there's an old movie about him. pretty brutal
BeeExpert t1_ixsqgss wrote
Reply to comment by Jthe1andOnly in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
All we can do it wait and see. and pray
BeeExpert t1_ixsqdzs wrote
Reply to comment by JackRusselTerrorist in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
No, I want a recipe that allows me to eat the whole bone! And I want it now!
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Reply to comment by Imadope_1960 in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
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Doctor_Impossible_ t1_ixseu2y wrote
Reply to comment by GOLDIEM_J in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
'Anglocentric' in what sense? In that they were mainly won/fought by the British, or the Anglosphere as a whole?
Imadope_1960 t1_ixsblph wrote
Reply to comment by MacDerfus in Animal bones, ancient Romans’ snack food found in Colosseum by marketrent
Neither do hotdogs and nachos and cheese, what will the ancient ballparks of the 20th century reveal in 2000 years. Granted the current ballparks will be replaced in 30 years historians will wonder why they couldn't build a stadium that lasts 50 years.
Lothronion t1_ixtsam9 wrote
Reply to comment by MassErect69 in What is the oldest tribe or clan that has been existing throughout history? And also, the oldest ethnicity? by sheerwaan
>“What is the oldest culture in existence that has remained largely unchanged since it originated?”
Then the answer would be the Indigenous Australians.
Their oral stories, the Dreamtime, speaks of prehistoric fauna, now extinct!