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Initial_E t1_iy1b859 wrote
Reply to comment by RiddlingTea in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
If the only way the imperialists could be tamed is through abject failure then things don’t bode well for the future of humanity. Can you imagine raising an army to fight an internal war to overcome your own countrymen to prevent the army going to war?
Gemmabeta t1_iy1b477 wrote
Reply to comment by marketrent in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
> Yosuke Matsuoka
He was the guy that announced that Japan is leaving the League of Nations (after being condemned for conquering Chinese Manchuria) in an incendiary speech.
Also:
> Following his return to Japan, Matsuoka announced his resignation from the Rikken Seiyūkai and his intent to form his own political party modeled after the National Fascist Party in Italy.
Red_dragon_052 t1_iy1atdd wrote
Reply to On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
The Japanese were sending out diplomats for the US constantly prior to Pearl Harbor, partly it was in earnest, but it soon became a cover for the coming attack. The US only really had 1 demand too end the oil embargo, Japan needed to leave China and stop murdering millions, which Japan was not willing to do. Instead they decided to expand their wars of aggression.
RiddlingTea t1_iy1ao1e wrote
Reply to comment by ATNinja in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
Yeah. What I mean is holding the position of a general concurrently, as in involved in the military at that present moment. Sorry for the imprecision.
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ATNinja t1_iy19hio wrote
Reply to comment by RiddlingTea in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
>Churchill made plenty of decisions regarding war without being a military man.
Churchill did serve in the british military. Pretty sure he was in south Africa for the boer wars.
But maybe you meant active duty military?
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RiddlingTea t1_iy18xfi wrote
Reply to comment by Scerus in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
I mean civilian as in not actively part of the military—Churchill made plenty of decisions regarding war without being a military man.
And my point was more that peace with the US was genuinely desired on good terms. That Tojo deposed Konoe for failure in peace talks implies success was desirable.
shantipole t1_iy188o6 wrote
Reply to comment by _Dead_Man_ in Simple/Short/Silly History Questions Saturday! by AutoModerator
The really short version is that blue coats indicated regular infantry armed with smoothbore muskets--your classic "let's stand in a couple of lines and shoot until one side gives up"--while the green coats were for skirmishers armed with rifles who acted as a screen, sharpshooters, etc.
Scerus t1_iy17ck2 wrote
Reply to comment by RiddlingTea in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
The previous government was hardly led by civilians, Prince Konoe preceded Tojo and transformed Japan further into a totalitarian state. Kanoe had also overseen the invasion of China in 1937 during his previous spell in office. Tojo deposed him because Kanoe's government had failed to reach an agreement with the Americans.
k20350 t1_iy1771r wrote
Reply to On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
All the while butchering and slaughtering millions of Chinese.. 3.9 million is the estimate pre and during WWII. That's not even counting the countless war crimes committed against civilians and opposing soldiers on their march across the Pacific
daveashaw t1_iy16ip4 wrote
Reply to On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
Of course, it didn't turn out to be a war of "mutual destruction" at all.
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thedivinemonkey298 t1_iy164qv wrote
Reply to On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
So diplomacy didn’t work, better bomb Pearl Harbor. This is terrible rationale.
RiddlingTea t1_iy14oc4 wrote
Reply to comment by kdogg2077 in On April 2, 1941, a Japanese foreign minister asked Pope Pius XII to speak to U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt, so as to avert "a war of mutual destruction” by marketrent
Tojo only became PM in Oct 41 though. I think the existing civilian administration at this time would have been amenable to peace talks, but the question is how much power the civilian administration had as opposed to the will of the army.
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