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I-Make-Maps91 t1_iynj1j9 wrote
Reply to comment by Ass_feldspar in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Yes. Unless you're moving small and very high value objects, a boat will always be the better way to move bulk goods. One of the reasons Rome was so successful was the ability to use the Mediterranean to transport goods the way we use trains today.
I don't know how much tin is needed to make bronze, but I would hazard a guess that boats along the Indian ocean played a big role.
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Reply to comment by SquishedGremlin in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
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SquishedGremlin t1_iyncdjf wrote
Reply to comment by LarkScarlett in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
That's so cool. Thank you for your knowledge.
Hippiebigbuckle t1_iyn9f7r wrote
Reply to comment by Jackalodeath in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Yeah, that sounds right. Haven’t seen him in so long it slipped my mind. I’ve been walking around completely unwary. I feel so vulnerable.
UglyTitties t1_iyn8fdc wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
I'm theorising from what is laid out in your own source, that it might be caused by contamination. I find contamination much more likely than the Egyptians having trade routes with pre colombian people.
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Reply to comment by UglyTitties in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
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UglyTitties t1_iyn2oxa wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Ok, so they found traces on the mummies, not in the tombs, and they have only been found on mummies in that museum. I'd say it's much more likely that someone probably thought it would be fun to do lines on the mummies at some kind of after work party.
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Nixeris t1_iymxhnu wrote
Reply to comment by BodolftheGnome in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
They're not even that far away. When they marched on Greece the Achaemenids (Persians) marched from Babylon just north of Ur to Greece.
Chopper_x t1_iymtymb wrote
Reply to comment by ShashwatSinha in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
The statue is dated even earlier
>small Buddha statuette from North India and a christening scoop from Egypt, both dating from the 6th century.
SquishedGremlin t1_iymdfh6 wrote
Reply to comment by Hypsar in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Instructions unclear. Sheep stuck in river.
doctorkanefsky t1_iymbzvz wrote
Reply to comment by BodolftheGnome in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Normally the individual merchants don’t range that far, but goods will change hands many times. If thirty people each move goods 10 miles they can get very far away.
Jackalodeath t1_iym7v8a wrote
Reply to comment by Hippiebigbuckle in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
If I remember correctly, they went by shittymorph.
They took a small break during the pandemic; something about trolling enough people for a while or something. They still creep the subreddits as far as I know so keep your wits about you.
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LarkScarlett t1_iym5jic wrote
Reply to comment by SquishedGremlin in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Ur was located in ancient Mesopotamia’s Sumeria, and is now within the modern borders of Iraq.
UglyTitties t1_iym3pmr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Please provide a source for such an utterly preposterous claim.
gwaydms t1_iym3bvk wrote
Reply to comment by ableseacat14 in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Yes. They just built the new city on the ruins of the old one.
Hypsar t1_iym2568 wrote
Reply to comment by SquishedGremlin in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Make sure to take the fleece off the sheep first!
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ShashwatSinha t1_iyls5mw wrote
Reply to comment by Chopper_x in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Eight century is quite early
I-Make-Maps91 t1_iynjztj wrote
Reply to comment by Deirdre_Rose in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Something like the trojan wars do seem to have happened, there's signs of large battles at Troy around the time of the bronze age collapse. One theory I've heard was disruptions in the Greek world led to a giant raid in Troy, the wealthy trading city that guarded the route to the Black Sea, and by sacking Troy they ultimately disrupted the trade networks that brought tin to the region and contributed to the bronze age collapse.
Ultimately it's kinda unknowable, but it certainly fits with the Iliad actually having really good directions and the timelines of that era's Troy/Mycenaean civilizations collapse.