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theredwoman95 t1_iyqk9z1 wrote
Reply to comment by OldMollyOxford in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
I've actually been looking at the Winchester pipe rolls (basically accounts of the bishop's tenants) lately, which started in the first decade of the 1200s, and you still see quite a significant amount of Old English names. It's maybe 10% of women's names at most, and not many women appear in the first place, but it's still enough that I wouldn't rule the post-Conquest period out.
JamesBaxter1312 t1_iyqk803 wrote
Reply to comment by onetimenative in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
protip, carve your memes into clay tablets today
OldMollyOxford t1_iyqk4z9 wrote
Reply to comment by theredwoman95 in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Eadburg is very unlikely to be a name given more than a generation or two after the Norman Conquest though! So I don’t think you’d find it among later medieval schoolchildren or their crushes.
SpinachTraditional12 t1_iyqk15o wrote
Reply to comment by onetimenative in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
>…your complete personal written journal with all its writing and doodles.
Oh, my journal is going to be one of the representatives of the culture of our time? Hmm… brb, I suddenly have a lot of boobs and penises I need to draw in my journal.
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theredwoman95 t1_iyqix7x wrote
Reply to comment by ItsMud in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Yeah, given this was kept in an abbey for several centuries, I think there's a good chance it was a child initiate.
theredwoman95 t1_iyqittg wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
The manuscript was kept in an abbey until the 1500s - abbeys were often used as schools for aristocratic children and would also educate peasant children given to them as initiates (who sometimes would decide against becoming a monk or nun as an adult). It's entirely possible this was the case here.
CDfm t1_iyqihe6 wrote
Reply to Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Ever since Bluetooth we know that there were female scribes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46783610
"Eadburg was here" definitely seems a possibility.
A bit of doodling. Maybe even a child who had learnt to spell their name .
theredwoman95 t1_iyqifqi wrote
Reply to comment by YogurtFirm in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
There's literally a whole field of study about marginalia in medieval manuscripts - yes they were expensive, but that's never stopped graffiti.
Raggenn t1_iyqg3jp wrote
Reply to Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Even cartoons from 12 centuries ago only have 4 fingers. Interesting...
No_Fun8701 t1_iyqfl4n wrote
Reply to Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Was the "writer" able to see what was written or drawn ?
Children tend to have better vision , maybe .
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tomsan2010 t1_iyq8hpp wrote
Reply to comment by Painting_Agency in Gold from ancient Troy, Poliochni and Ur had the same origin by IslandChillin
Blew up actual troy in the search for troy. Found an older town underneath. Smuggled the gold out to greece and was caught because his wife was wearing a trojan necklace. But he atleast found it!
TheScorchbeastQueen t1_iyq8dot wrote
Reply to comment by GrandmaPoses in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
My sister is an amazing woman, far more intelligent than me but sometimes she misses the mark massively on things like this due to her aspergers lol. Sounds like she wrote this. Gave me a chuckle
solveig82 t1_iyq7dlj wrote
Reply to comment by Aselleus in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
That was my 2nd thought too
onetimenative t1_iyq6uip wrote
Reply to comment by Peanut_Butter_Toast in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
The texts and pieces that survive.
Imagine losing 99% of all global data 1,000 years from now ... there was a huge catastrophe, an asteroid hit the planet and blew away half the surface and much of what was left barely survived. A few thousand humans survive but they lose all of civilization and are thrown back to hunter survival mode. A couple hundred years go by and people start to pick up the pieces of their lost ancestors.
They find a partial chapter of the Bible, a few pages of the Koran, some Hebrew texts, a dozen books on New York tax law, a partial copy of hustler magazine and your complete personal written journal with all its writing and doodles.
Wretched_Brittunculi t1_iyq6rzw wrote
Reply to comment by YogurtFirm in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Scribes were always writing insults and whatnot in manuscripts. I wouldn't be so sure that delinquents or the lovesick wouldn't too.
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doctorcrimson t1_iyq5pdj wrote
Reply to comment by Aselleus in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
My money is on a woman's contribution ignored for 1200 years.
doctorcrimson t1_iyq5mar wrote
Reply to Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Maybe she was a co-author and they conveniently didn't notice for 12 centuries?
ThePrussianGrippe t1_iyq5jwl wrote
Reply to comment by GrandmaPoses in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
These historians are a bunch of dweebs!
bloudy t1_iyq5ch1 wrote
Reply to comment by Homeimprvrt in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Yeh this is ridiculous. Totally jumping to conclusions.
Toucani t1_iyqo3o2 wrote
Reply to comment by ItsMud in Woman’s name and tiny sketches found in 1,300-year-old medieval text | Old English name, Eadburg, repeatedly scored into manuscript had remained hidden for more than 12 centuries by ArtOak
Absolutely. That simplistic sketch and writing a name loads of times in a 'textbook' is classic childish behaviour. It may well have been an educated woman but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a child writing on a parent's text or even a slightly older child bored when studying.