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clarkss12 t1_iz6t1j7 wrote
Just to add to this fascinating topic, Lynch Ky, was created by the coal companies.
satan_messiah t1_iz6stc6 wrote
Reply to comment by CK2Noob in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
Easters date is determined by the first full moon after the equinox and you mean there is no pagan origins there? I mean I could be wrong but easter being the first Sunday after the first full moon after the equinox seems pretty pagany to me.
Jean_Saisrien t1_iz6seig wrote
Reply to comment by Linus_Al in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
Psychologically, it is precisely the "harsh" comitment that makes it seems worthwhile. Having a relatively high bar to entry makes you feel like you are part of an elite that can truly give you something valuable and shape your life from top to bottom. Paradoxically, faith being too accomodating take the risk to lose adherents to those that are not as easy-going
Scary-Ad-1345 t1_iz6rz11 wrote
Did the UN do anything to help in Rwanda? Or did they only show up to help foreign diplomats?
Scary-Ad-1345 t1_iz6rl6f wrote
Was Hitler actually “inspired” by American Slavery & Jim Crow? Did he learn how to treat Jews based on the way Americans treated blacks?
ConsitutionalHistory t1_iz6r2b4 wrote
Reply to How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
It's worth noting that most contemporary religions, to include Christianity, promise 'heaven' after death. Almost all really old religions were based on a need...you pray to the gods for rain, for sunshine, etc. People would 'fall away' from those gods during times of famine, drought, etc. But by post-poning personal fulfillment until after death, Christianity assured itself of things to come in the after life.
_Harlan_ t1_iz6qyl6 wrote
Most people make a comment on the uniqueness of my name when I introduce myself. I am not from Kentucky but I've visited Harlan. Thanks for this, I enjoyed learning some history
honeyintherock t1_iz6qi9e wrote
Reply to comment by Troll_For_Truth in An essay on The Harlan County War by BonesOfTheWaywardSon
My family is from Harlan, too! A few relatives still live there. It's wild to me that an area dotted with such very small towns has such a very rich and intense history!
The oral history OP referenced is absolutely, overwhelmingly fascinating, if you've not read it I highly recommend it! I don't know what drew that Italian man to compile such a thing, but it's a good thing he did.
HappyMonk3y99 t1_iz6qasl wrote
Reply to comment by BeakersDream in Why is it that the life of William the Conquerer seems to be taken from a drama tv show? by Dawnbreaker234
But isn’t it based on facts and evidence that Richard was skilled in warfare? I feel like this is a difference between partial truths and holistic overview rather than accuracy vs inaccuracy. Again the relevance of each varies depending on the context and depth of conversation. If someone were to argue that Richard was a great king based solely on his martial prowess then I absolutely would agree with you, in that context
CalvinSays t1_iz6po0c wrote
Reply to comment by SnooConfections6085 in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
There is really no evidence his conversion wasn't genuine. And in 312 there really was very little political advantage to converting to Christianity.
CalvinSays t1_iz6pek8 wrote
Reply to comment by Sad_Blueberry_3868 in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
Not at all. Christianity was very much syncretism, at least early on. By the time possible syncretism does happen, it was already the culturally favored religion so this wouldn't explain the spread. As for the supposed syncretism like Easter and Christmas this simply wasn't the case. It was ironically propaganda started by Protestants in the 19th century against the Roman Catholic Church. Secularists ran with it to condemn the whole Christian tradition.
The most important work in this regard is Alexander Hislop's the Two Babylons.
CalvinSays t1_iz6p146 wrote
Reply to comment by Aridius in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
Not exactly right. Christianity became tolerated with the Edict of Milan in 313 and certainly became the politically favored religion with the conversion of Constantine but it did not become the official religion of the Roman Empire until Theodosius I declared it it in 380.
CalvinSays t1_iz6on2z wrote
Reply to How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
As a Christian theologian (in training), my answer is that the expansion of Christianity was guided by the Holy Spirit. But that probably wouldn't be a proper answer for the subreddit.
However, there are many little things that helped Christianity. The first is the inherent urge to evangelize. It is at the core of the religion and expressed clearly in the religious texts (like Matt. 28:18-20). Other religions in the Roman Empire didn't usually have this same urge.
Second, as is noted elsewhere on this subreddit, the Christian religion was not ethnically limited. While this turned some people off, it also allowed the religion to not be limited in who they would accept among the ranks.
Third, perhaps most importantly, was Christianity's mercy within a hostile culture. Children were often left to die of exposure, especially women. Christians would often come and rescue these babies, raising them as their own. Contrary to what people believe today, Christianity was also comparatively very egalitarian both among the classes and among the sexes. The early church was largely composed of slaves, lower class, and women. This appeal to a massive audience within the Roman Empire helped the spread.
Adept-Donut-4229 t1_iz6oa12 wrote
Reply to How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
They all worshipped the sun and moon anyway, so plug and trace, easy peasy. It was all about eclipses and zigzags. I'm an expert!
Sun_At_Meridian t1_iz6n1rk wrote
Reply to How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
The Baha’i Faith got smashed with incredible persecution and genocide. In the east, it’s still dangerous to be a Baha’i. However, the structure of the Faith is to spread it in a gentle way over whatever place you can. Members are encouraged to travel internationally and do what is essentially missionary work to help show the world what Baha’is believe. In those places the stories and songs are spread at “firesides” not by keeping it all in a religious building somewhere (although there are places of worship, it’s not where or how the Faith is spread). The Baha’i Faith is one of worlds most rapidly growing religions after only developing in the last 300 years. I think what most successful religions have in common, is that they build on an established religions existing beliefs and by doing it gently. The Baha’i Faith is an Abrahamic religion, building directly on from established Abrahamic religions with the belief that all of the world’s religions actually worship the same God. Edit: it also helps that the laws of the religion are to set aside some money for the Universal House of Justice in your will. Nothing happens without money. Baha’i inheritance laws are actually very interesting.
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Reply to comment by Aridius in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
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CK2Noob t1_iz6m330 wrote
Reply to comment by Sad_Blueberry_3868 in How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
Easter and Christmas are not pagan at all. That's a myth that comes from 19th century scholarly opinion and is pretty outdated. If you look at traditional Christmas or Easter celebration nothing about it is pagan. Easter had a long period of fasting with various services during the period and on Easter you would go to Church and celebrate it in Church, with a big meal afterwards (this is where the eucharist would have been consumed as well).
Easter itself comes from the jewish passover tradition, which celebrates Moses taking the Jews out of Egypt to the promised land and saved them from slavery (the paralell being that Christ took His people out of the world and opened up the promised land that is the Kingdom of Heaven to people, and broke the slavery to death and sin). The only thing somewhat pagan about easter is the english name for it, most languages use some variation of "Pascha" which comes from the jewish word for passover.
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With Christmas it's basically the same thing. The only similarity between Christmas and Saturnalia is roughly the time of year and gift giving. It's just that Saturnalia was a multi-day festival that ended on the 23rd of december. Christmas would also have had a 40 day fasting period before it, so no festivals there. And on Christmas itself you would have gone to Church, then had a big meal afterwards.
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If you want actual examples of syncretism then things such as the serbian "Slava" tradition is a much better example, not Christmas and and especially not Easter which is extremely abrahamic.
ihavewaytoomanyminis t1_iz6m323 wrote
There's history of the Coal Wars in Virginia and West Virginia. In Virginia, the Coal Wars are not covered in the standard public school curriculum, but it is covered in West Virginia. This is because of the Unions in West Virginia.
Ilikethat_seriously t1_iz6lny9 wrote
Reply to Why is it that the life of William the Conquerer seems to be taken from a drama tv show? by Dawnbreaker234
Any recco's on the best book about his life?
theoriginalstarwars t1_iz6kve6 wrote
Reply to How did new emerging religions succeed despite established pre-existing religions during ancient and/or pre-historic times? by matthewlee0165
The Mormon religion popped up in the last 190 years. Scientology started in 1953. Religions starting are not something old, and how many cults are currently out there? At least 1 study indicates there are currently 2,000 to 5,000 in the US alone.
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ety3rd t1_iz6g3lu wrote
A great read, thank you. It's sad to know this wasn't the end of such strife there, as noted in the 1976 documentary film Harlan County USA. (Plus, modern Harlan often served as the backdrop in the great TV series Justified.)
SpottedSharks2022 t1_iz6fp3x wrote
The TV series Justified is set in Harlan County and has many references to those violent times.
Machiavelli_Nicky t1_iz6vvhw wrote
Reply to An essay on The Harlan County War by BonesOfTheWaywardSon
There’s a book that recently came out called Blood Runs Coal that’s about the coal miner strikes and violence that occurred in the late 60’s and 70’s that you might be interested in!