Hopefully .

Refurbished = new.

I cannot take a pic right now because I am responding to you from it, but it's literally right above the speaker grill.

Yeah but I assume that even if iOS 17 doesn't support the 8 Plus, I will be able to update to the latest iOS 16? At some point I will upgrade my iPhone, but right now it's stable and it does everything I want it to. I feel the same about iOS 15, which is why I don't want to update. I like everything being stable.

I’d need a pic of the damage on the 14 pro max, but refurbished phones aren’t really that bad. They have a new battery, screen. The wiring in there might not be brand new but you don’t need it to be.

Only problem might be if Apple stops giving major updates to the 8 plus. It was released back in 2017 and Apple has a policy of 5 major updates with 2 more years of security updates so it's not likely. 16.7.1 or 16.7.2 is your best bet.

I'll take a barebones alarm app over the Pixel experience where my alarms randomly muted on a regular basis with no discernible explanation, across multiple phones with no acknowledgement or attempt to fix by google (and still find people posting about when I need a good chuckle).

Same

Mad isn't it... I'll probably be updating when everyone is jumping on iOS 17 Beta 😂

Yup. 🫣😊

Yeah 15.6.3 isn't terrible and decently secure. Good battery life. Don't update unless you have to. I'd say iOS 16.7 is where it stabilizes so consider updating then.

Funnily, I just read a thread on Reddit where lots of people are having problems with HomeKit on iOS 16.3. I rely on HomeKit so I really don't want to have to deal with that!

Is that Bleu de Chanel on the side? 😋

Thanks for the link! I'm looking through the instructions and it seems pretty complicated, a little out of my league these days 😂 I will have a ponder but most likely I will stay on 15.6.3 for a bit and then bite the bullet when I have to update to 16.3.

Yeah zooming into pictures is nice and useful.

I just don't like having to force enlarged text size everywhere. This forces me to scroll more everywhere, with less info displayed per screen. This is also not supported in all apps.

Needless to say when you get older you may be far sighted, or near sighted.
Unfortunately, for me I'm far sighted and have trouble reading small text up close (unless I hold my phone at arms distance). I also don't want to be forced to wear glasses every time I need to look at something on my phone.

This is why I think pinch zooming within apps would be a great option for all users. I even know where it belongs, under "Settings > Accessibility > Zoom > Enable Zoom within Apps".

I really think a lot of people would find this helpful in a "pinch". Wishful thinking I guess.

Interesting. My 11 Pro gives me the Lock Screen immediately when I press the power button and then Wallet once it detects the second press.

Here you go. I believe this method still works and gets you back to 15.6 RC(not the same as the one you have now) and lets you OTA update to 15.7.2.

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EDIT:

New link because I think Apple made it possible to update to 16.1.2 through the 15.6 method not 15.7.2:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/guide-how-to-update-to-ios-15-7-2-for-iphone-8-x-xr-xs-11-se2-12-13-se3.2373742/

do you want bigger phone or smaller phone

Thanks. I just need to find out a way of updating my phone to the latest iOS 15 because it is currently stuck on 15.6.3 and the only path available to me is all the way to 16.3.

I have my doubts

In places with poor network coverage, airplane mode is super helpful. Especially if they have Wi-Fi.

Many people don’t realise you can enable airplane mode and then enable Wi-Fi, so your phone won’t look for a signal but Wi-Fi will still work.

I was going to comment, but you said EXACTLY what I was going to say. I second this opinion!

I use Documents by Readdle while my phone is plugged in.

It goes through iTunes, but it’s been the most reliable way so far.

Really wish windows had airdrop 🫠🫠

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