Submitted by Linux-Is-Best t3_ynrby6 in massachusetts
It is currently 9:20 AM (in the morning) and it is 65 F, and it is expected to get warmer to 75 F by this afternoon. It's November, I have the heat off, the windows open, and I can comfortably go outside in a t-shirt.
Global warming is not "fake news" and anyone who says so, at this point, really needs to get a clue.
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I think u/_Miami_Vice-Grip got the point.
> All the people arguing about weather vs. climate are distractions. > > People linking to one November 40 years ago, and even to 1900 are missing the point. Average temps rise, especially in winter, in the northeast. It literally happened, we have records. > > This year it's about 6.5 degrees F increase in the average winter temp compared to 1975. That could be as simple as it takes longer to get to a typical level of cold, but it doesn't mean it's not caused by climate change. > > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/06/climate-crisis-past-eight-years-were-the-eight-hottest-ever-says-un
> This is happening, and it's not crazy that people, especially those 30+ who lived around here for decades, physically notice it. Could OP have phrased this better? Sure. Is what's happening now a weather event and not "the climate"? Sure, technically. > > Does that really matter? Not really. "Oh but the deniers will use that to..." No. They won't. They don't care, and having better phrasing clearly doesn't change their minds anyway. > > This is people venting their frustration because they don't understand how the deniers don't see what's happening. They don't see as many butterflies, they have like 1000% more ticks, longer and more frequent droughts, etc. and they still deny it. > > I think a lot of the issue is that New England is relatively isolated from direct ill effects of climate change. We don't have hundreds dead from typhoons or dozens frozen to death in freak blizzards. But if you're paying attention to nature, and you've been doing it for decades, it's obvious we're in decline. > > I guess it's like watching someone start to go bald and hear them say "it's just a local trend, the hair will come back soon." And they say "Why bother investing in rogain now? I have plenty of hair left."
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> All the people arguing about weather vs. climate are distractions.
Bingo. Thank you. At least you get it.
I mean, why, yes, climate is different from weather, but climate effects weather patterns. Duh (obviously).
But if science is to win in this society, we're going to need to dumb things down, so even the dumb kid who ate paste can grasp things.
I wish everyone had a Phd. And yes, I know it's correctly spelled, PhD with a capital "D" at the end. But the fact that someone would likely argue that point, ignoring whatever other important issue was being made, choosing to nitpick and argue semantics, means whatever was important is lost.
But I digress. I wish most of the occupancy of the planet thought bigger, longer, and more in depth. The reality is, they do not. And we can spend forever trying to climb that uphill battle, wasting precious time we don't have, or we can make thing simple and work on the problem. Once we have almost everyone on the same page, then we can argue semantics.
FYI, I am not the dumb kid who ate paste, but damn, metaphorically there are sure a lot of them, and we're still going to need them on the same page.
The point I was making is it is staying warming longer, and anyone who goes outside can see that. When I was a child, it would occasionally be snowing in late October, and the beginning of November we would be well into freezing temperatures or, at the very least, need a good coat. However, these days, it's well into November, and I can wear a t-shirt and keep the windows open.
That's the point I am making, and it is a valid one. But if everyone wants to nitpick terminology, have at it.
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Thanks to u/ShroomFoot for posting this.
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>I have a potato plant still growing in Southern Maine right now. My strawberries are starting to pop back. My elderberry bushes are in a weird limbo, they look like they're trying to revegetate already. My ice plants are doing awesome. My mints are still going strong....
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> all of these should be covered in several inches of snow by now based on the local weather patterns I've observed here over the past 31 years, the past ten of which have rapidly progressed to where we are now. I've never, repeat that, NEVER had a truly 9+ month growing season in Maine until this year. I've pushed some plants through tough conditions to force it, but never have I seen a growing season begin in early March and still be going strong in November.
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Unfortunately, many people have a hard time thinking and recalling, long term. There are so many people trying to say this is "normal" and quoting 2015 (for example), but it was not normal then either. It can seem "normal" from a relatively short-term point of view, because people get used to it. They get used to climate change and begin to see it as "normal." And those who are younger, know nothing else.
I am 41, but I am going to assume you're older, so you've seen it dramatically changes over the span of time. But even at my presumed younger age (in comparison), I recall it once was seen as normal for cold Octobers with frost and some light snow on the ground, while November would be bitter cold.
Over time, it has gotten warmer or, more to the point, stayed warmer longer. "Indian Summer" (as they called it) was something we would experience in September and not November or December (which is when winter starts).